Jessica DiBiase, OG Kettlebell Pioneer, MS

WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.029 --> 00:00:04.989 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Start recording. Turn on the transcription 2 00:00:06.279 --> 00:00:17.662 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: backup audio in case we lose anything. You've got your water. You've got your Stanley mug. You're good to go alright. My! Your ears. I'm gonna play. I'm gonna play the theme song just because 3 00:00:17.970 --> 00:00:27.969 Jessica DiBiase: Perfect and is the lighting. Okay, I kind. I didn't probably do the best I could. But are we okay? Do I need to like increase the lighting or change the angle, or you're only gonna get me from here up anyways, or something. 4 00:00:27.970 --> 00:00:33.346 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: You're you're being compared against this. So I think you're you're doing fine. 5 00:00:33.760 --> 00:00:38.100 Jessica DiBiase: I probably should have done a little better job at the end of the day here and me after 6 00:00:38.780 --> 00:00:40.520 Jessica DiBiase: working all day. But I'm here for you. 7 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:46.769 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: This is me doing the like. Okay, the kids are going to. Well, Steph, Steph and Kira are watching the wild game. 8 00:00:46.770 --> 00:00:47.880 Jessica DiBiase: I love it, I love it. 9 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:57.560 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: She'll put her to bed. But just mind yours. If this comes in, I'm trying. I'll hope it won't come in hot. But oh, how do you want me to introduce? So it's dibiase, right like it's very. 10 00:00:57.560 --> 00:00:59.500 Jessica DiBiase: Got it. That's perfect. It's very Italian. Yeah. 11 00:00:59.500 --> 00:01:01.699 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: And and and and 12 00:01:02.010 --> 00:01:08.550 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: how do you want to be? Introduce like? What are you have so many superlatives? I could say like, so how do? How do you want me to introduce you. 13 00:01:08.570 --> 00:01:12.110 Jessica DiBiase: Oh, gosh! I mean, I think 14 00:01:13.001 --> 00:01:32.700 Jessica DiBiase: well, whatever really feels comfortable for you to introduce I mean you know some people like to describe, you know, I mean there. Some people describe me as just kind of like Kettlebell. Og, but really, I really just like the idea that I was. I'm my most proud of 15 00:01:32.710 --> 00:01:39.749 Jessica DiBiase: helping to be part of the first, st you know. 1st women's kettleball sport team. You know what I mean. That was really like. 16 00:01:39.910 --> 00:01:48.609 Jessica DiBiase: you know, when when I when we created that team, Steve was obviously part of that in my end, and Sarah and Surya there, we created a team 17 00:01:48.760 --> 00:02:13.050 Jessica DiBiase: where there just wasn't. There wasn't an All Women's kettleball sport team we just did wasn't even in existence. And so I think I think when you start there. Everything kind of just sort of, you know, trickles down. Obviously, I've you know we've we? I helped. You know I've had a successful training business for 14 years, and I've trained thousands of people like Kettleball sport and beyond. And so I mean, there's 18 00:02:13.050 --> 00:02:30.190 Jessica DiBiase: I traveled around. I'm the 1st female master of sport and long cycle. But I mean, those things are all kind of important, but I think if you want to introduce me, you can simply introduce me, as you know, like, you know, 1st master of sport, but also part of being the 1st women's Kettlebell sport team. 19 00:02:30.190 --> 00:02:30.750 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: I got you. 20 00:02:30.750 --> 00:02:31.370 Jessica DiBiase: You are. 21 00:02:31.370 --> 00:02:36.119 Jessica DiBiase: I got you alright, James Taylor obsessed. 22 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:41.860 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Mind yours. I hope they're coming out. I've got. I've got the letter. I've got the levels low. So hopefully. Hey, Jake, how you doing. 23 00:02:42.480 --> 00:02:43.550 Jessica DiBiase: Miss Jordan. 24 00:03:03.270 --> 00:03:20.590 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: All right welcome in to the platform podcast, I am incredibly excited to welcome in Jessica dibiase as my guest. This week she is a master of sport, the 1st women's master of sport in long cycle, and the co-founder of the world. Famous 25 00:03:20.590 --> 00:03:46.439 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: ice chamber, Kettlebell sport team, the 1st female only Kettlebell sport team in existence, as well as being a successful entrepreneur. The maker of the Kettle Guard, a world renowned trainer running a successful business and entrepreneur, personal trainer, mom and just general Badass, Kettlebell, Og. Welcome into the platform. Podcast, jessica. I'm excited to have you. 26 00:03:46.780 --> 00:03:54.045 Jessica DiBiase: I love it. That was like awesome. I'll take. I'm gonna I'm gonna take that intro with me and like, put some music to it, and just play it every day. 27 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:59.770 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: I think we can do that. We'll give you. We'll give you your your fire. You get yourself fired up in the morning mantra, right like. 28 00:03:59.770 --> 00:04:12.289 Jessica DiBiase: I love it. Actually, I think we all need to have like, we all need to have that like some kind of intro, that what is it like when you I always love like like the the walking song, for like athletes right when they're coming up to bat? You know 29 00:04:12.690 --> 00:04:16.579 Jessica DiBiase: they're going and playing basketball. It's there like that. 30 00:04:16.589 --> 00:04:17.829 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Walk up, song, 1st question. 31 00:04:17.829 --> 00:04:35.649 Jessica DiBiase: Oh, my God! It's so amazing! And you're gonna ask me that as soon as I as soon as I said that, and I think. I've always thought that if there were 2 artists that best described me you're gonna laugh. They'd be. It'd be Tupac and James Taylor. So but I think my my. 32 00:04:35.650 --> 00:04:38.160 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Totally, but basically the same person. So. 33 00:04:40.430 --> 00:04:57.201 Jessica DiBiase: Thank you for realizing that I feel really seen in this moment. I think that I would probably. I think you know, I think, James 2 would be my my song for later. But I think if I was to pick up my walk up my my walk up to to base a smack, a home run kind of song it would probably be 34 00:04:57.670 --> 00:05:02.269 Jessica DiBiase: It would probably have to be America's most wanted. Yes, please, we'll take that. 35 00:05:04.320 --> 00:05:05.280 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Love, that now. 36 00:05:05.280 --> 00:05:08.070 Jessica DiBiase: That. Yeah, that's that's it. What would yours be. 37 00:05:08.180 --> 00:05:09.119 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Oh, gosh! 38 00:05:09.590 --> 00:05:10.370 Jessica DiBiase: That's a good one, right? 39 00:05:10.370 --> 00:05:12.129 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Yeah. You flipped it around on me. Obviously, I'm not. 40 00:05:12.130 --> 00:05:13.190 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: No, I did it. I know. 41 00:05:13.190 --> 00:05:15.592 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Used to being yeah. Used to being asked questions. 42 00:05:18.783 --> 00:05:24.709 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: like song number 2 by blur is one that always gets me high. It would depend on what, though, right? And I was just gonna ask you like. 43 00:05:24.710 --> 00:05:25.140 Jessica DiBiase: Really. 44 00:05:25.140 --> 00:05:27.499 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Kettlebell sport? If you're walking up onto the platform, would you be. 45 00:05:28.020 --> 00:05:32.220 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: or would you be more James Taylor like? Are you trying to get yourself hype, or are you trying to keep yourself like chill. 46 00:05:32.220 --> 00:05:48.839 Jessica DiBiase: Oh, that's such a great question, I think through all the years of training I and getting ready, I would. I almost think that I spent years, I mean, actually, it was sort of a joke. I remember I was up on the platform next to like Catherine Ins. And I remember she cracked up. I think I played like 47 00:05:48.900 --> 00:06:15.910 Jessica DiBiase: I think we played Jay-z hard knock life, and she want like the whole I and I'd asked Steve. It was like at our gym, so I'd asked him to play this song when I went up, so she didn't really get a choice in the matter, but I remember when we got off she was like I wanted to like literally. She was like that is like the worst song to like, you know, live to, but I thought the like melody was like, no, no, no, not not right like, and so it kind of kept my like heart rate from going to 48 00:06:16.230 --> 00:06:44.629 Jessica DiBiase: right? No, no. So because that was always this, this like, there's this, you know moment where you you're, you're not sure, right? We're trying to get your your numbers, and you're like, you just want to keep your grip. You don't want to get your heart rate up too high, and everything kind of has. It's like this. Perfect confluence of events, like everything kind of has to happen at the same time, in order for the magic to happen on the platform, and I think it was always a struggle for me to like not get my heart rate too high. And so 49 00:06:44.630 --> 00:07:04.519 Jessica DiBiase: I think I'd always play, you know as hard core rap as possible. But I think ultimately, maybe, James, there would have been the better bet, because it would have calmed me prior to going on, so I think maybe now I might do Jt. On my way to the platform. But I'd still keep. I would still keep them talk, and and Biggie, and you know Jay-z, and 50 00:07:05.031 --> 00:07:11.349 Jessica DiBiase: And and Snoop and my my Rap family, I think on while I'm going. 51 00:07:11.350 --> 00:07:12.020 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Okay. Alright. 52 00:07:12.200 --> 00:07:12.560 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Our team. 53 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:14.960 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Aj. Are you a run? The jewels fan as well. 54 00:07:14.960 --> 00:07:18.510 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I I think, you know, I think 55 00:07:18.580 --> 00:07:42.460 Jessica DiBiase: one of the things I've you know, also, working alongside people like sex. People just really had a love of, you know, old school hip, hop, and just music like I'm I'm a lover of of all of it from the beginning to to now, and it's probably it's my favorite genre for sure of music. So I I'll take it. You know I love it. I love music, love music in general. I think we started our conversation with that. You know. 56 00:07:42.460 --> 00:07:47.080 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Yeah, you're you're you're you're like a West Side ride or die, girl. So do you. 57 00:07:47.080 --> 00:07:47.920 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah, yeah. 58 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:51.320 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: You fuck with Biggie like, are you? Are you still good with the East Coast? You still good with. 59 00:07:51.610 --> 00:08:19.509 Jessica DiBiase: I try to like. Just stay neutral. There, I'm like, I don't like what I like. I'm like, oh, my God! Now that's a really sensitive topic. Right? I I just. I think I'll play whatever kind of moves me. And at this I mean kettle off sports show and competing still to this day, and takes kind of everything that I've got. So whatever can hype me up and get me to that point. But I would still say 9 times out of 10. That's what I'm listening to when I'm doing a set. 60 00:08:19.510 --> 00:08:29.919 Jessica DiBiase: And my gym, or I'm doing, I'm competing. I just can't, really. It's hard for me to really get get. It's just kind of so gritty that I need something to match it. I need a song to match the grit. Really. 61 00:08:29.920 --> 00:08:31.369 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: I can. I can feel that for sure. 62 00:08:31.370 --> 00:08:32.299 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah, yeah. 63 00:08:32.309 --> 00:08:44.949 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna share the we've got the Tckb lifting mix. And it has all sorts of all sorts of stuff on a lot of heavy rock, but also a lot of like a lot of hip. Hop, a lot of lot of rap on there as well. So I'll I'll. 64 00:08:44.950 --> 00:08:46.139 Jessica DiBiase: I can't wait to hear it. 65 00:08:46.140 --> 00:08:51.649 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: I'll add you to that, cause. It's I mean, it's like 500 songs. So it covers. It covers a pretty pretty well. 66 00:08:51.650 --> 00:08:53.590 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: covers all the bases. Yeah. 67 00:08:53.590 --> 00:09:12.750 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: But so for those of you that don't know, for the people that don't know who you are don't know your backstory like I, big Kettlebell nerds. Tell us a little bit about your your origin story like what's your background that got you into like fitness? And how did you stumble upon this crazy sport. That is Kettlebell. Sport. 68 00:09:12.940 --> 00:09:27.149 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah, I like my favorite question. So I appreciate you asking. I I mean to go all the way back. I I always say that my dad had me in the water before I could walk. So we were a really, you know, I come from a really, really, really long line of 69 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:42.899 Jessica DiBiase: athletic human, and, to be honest with you, super successful entrepreneur. So I think, like that was always just. I was always swimming in those waters. My Dad competed against Mark Spitz, and swimming almost made it to the Olympics. My great aunt was in Wimbledon, my 70 00:09:42.900 --> 00:10:00.990 Jessica DiBiase: grandfathers, my great grandfather was the 1st pro Jewish boxer. Fun fact there! My other grandfather was running marathons into, you know, late seventies, early eighties. So it was just in my blood to to move to be athletic, to take health and wellness seriously. You know what I mean literally like it's all that I knew my dad had 71 00:10:00.990 --> 00:10:09.089 Jessica DiBiase: had, you know, a couple of books and on his shelf, and one of them was emotional intelligence, right how to think and communicate to people effectively. That was huge. 72 00:10:09.090 --> 00:10:21.660 Jessica DiBiase: and, you know, just kind of the the art of of eating and moving your body. So I mean he was really prescribed to all of this at a very young point in my life. So it's kind of all that I knew. Fortunately, I really say that because I think 73 00:10:21.660 --> 00:10:35.707 Jessica DiBiase: I always say if you're in my own training. I always say, if you're healthy you can think about everything. Sky's the limit, and if you're not healthy and you're not well, there's only one thing you can think about, and that's how to get well. So I want to say as well, and I want the people around me to be well, 74 00:10:36.230 --> 00:10:52.610 Jessica DiBiase: fast forward. I was a competitive gymnast. I competed in triathlon. I was good enough to play tennis in college, but then they removed the the funding, so that didn't happen. But that's where I went. And then just kind of like just became obsessed with working out all the time and training that way 75 00:10:52.630 --> 00:11:05.879 Jessica DiBiase: my daughter is singing in the background. But you can shuffle Rowan. We can put that in our playlist, too. And then, when I graduated, I went right to grad school and kind of went the route of. 76 00:11:05.900 --> 00:11:31.465 Jessica DiBiase: you know, pharmaceutical sales, and just knew that I loved health and wellness, and thought that was like a really good fit after grad school, and during that time I met Maya and Steve, and they had started the ice chamber, and I kind of joined forces with them, and they were sort of doing like crossfit esque, you know, workouts and stuff in their backyard, and then started the gym, and then I kind of came on board with them. And 77 00:11:31.780 --> 00:11:42.240 Jessica DiBiase: I it was right kind of at that time that crossfit was just super super popular. And Steve, his background was in, like, you know, music and tech recruiting. And so he kind of like. 78 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:45.340 Jessica DiBiase: when when was ice chamber founded out. 79 00:11:45.340 --> 00:11:54.502 Jessica DiBiase: yeah, yeah, something to be honest, I don't remember actually even the exact. But it would say with them are around that, or maybe maybe even slightly earlier, 80 00:11:55.170 --> 00:12:10.499 Jessica DiBiase: But there for him, he bringing the music and that piece he just thought about like boy bands and girl bands, and you know, so he kind of was like what we need to kind of like have like a girl band, you know. And I was like, Okay, and so 81 00:12:10.500 --> 00:12:37.010 Jessica DiBiase: we we just sort of form this, and he had somehow met up with the Larry Federenko, the godfather, you know, for it, and Kettlebells name on a lot of them. But he had wanted to come up with some idea. And you kind of position this with my and I like, how can we sort of have something that's not crossfit-esque, but still like gritty and tough and hard, but you know, not 82 00:12:37.060 --> 00:12:45.749 Jessica DiBiase: totally crazy high impact. You know what I mean, but that's high intensity and is like something that people can compete in right because people love to compete. 83 00:12:45.870 --> 00:12:57.469 Jessica DiBiase: And that isn't something that you have to stop competing. And when you're like 30 right like like this is. There's still to this day nothing that's more awesome. Well, 2 things about kettleball sport is that it's 84 00:12:57.770 --> 00:13:19.659 Jessica DiBiase: so unbelievably strong and kind of this, this high intensity workout with low impacts. You get the like muscular skeletal health work with all the cardio. But then you also get to compete with 8 year olds and 80 year olds. There's no other place. You can do that right? So it's powerful. So we wanted to kind of create that thing. That kind of made us a little bit more niche, and made our gym and made 85 00:13:19.660 --> 00:13:35.819 Jessica DiBiase: what we were, you know, just our program different. And so that's sort of how I fell into it. I can't say that all of a sudden I like went to Eastern Europe, you know. I was somewhere like in Eastern European countries, and said, Oh, we got to bring this back here. I think it was the mixture of talking with Steve and talking with Valeria Federenko and just kind of 86 00:13:36.090 --> 00:13:52.029 Jessica DiBiase: getting certified. Steve Cotter, I mean, some of these guys are just, you know, from the beginning. And we just kind of started to like, learn it and get certified in it and figure it out, and the more we did it, we just oh, my God! Fell in love with it. And then I thought this just really combined everything that 87 00:13:52.060 --> 00:14:13.680 Jessica DiBiase: you know I felt excited about as an athlete, but also as like a business person because it nobody there like a kettle ball like, what the hell is that? That's a weird thing. And and it was sort of like both frustrating and exciting to have to constantly explain to your family like they were like, I have no idea what you're doing. This isn't real estate. Okay, this isn't finance. I just don't get it. 88 00:14:13.680 --> 00:14:15.670 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: I get. But this kettleball thing like. 89 00:14:15.670 --> 00:14:35.229 Jessica DiBiase: 100. You know, the sport was weird, like, there just was nothing that sort of. They just didn't get it. And then finally, I just started to massage ways to like help them understand? It's like cardio powerlifting, you know. You see people doing it, but they seem with barbells. Well, this is like with Kettlebell, but it's more ballistic. It's more dance like I've always found myself using words that, like. 90 00:14:35.230 --> 00:14:51.290 Jessica DiBiase: I kind of feel like modern society could kind of like connect to. They could relate to that. So it just didn't feel like so bizarre. You know what I mean this like metal thing with a handle, and you're like putting it over your head. It was so much more. There was just so much more finesse to that to me. I've always seen it, it's so much more artistic. And 91 00:14:51.300 --> 00:15:01.279 Jessica DiBiase: and so we just kind of started. We built the team and we traveled around all over. You know the us and internationally, and during that time we created a product, and 92 00:15:01.790 --> 00:15:19.639 Jessica DiBiase: that got a patent for it, and you know, and and started selling it all all around the world, and we kind of thought, hey, there's not a whole lot you need for this sport right like soccer. You're not going to go out and play soccer without a shin guard. You're not going to go out and do kettleball sport without a kettle guard, or at least have access to it, because 93 00:15:19.640 --> 00:15:37.669 Jessica DiBiase: I know everybody's got their opinions. But it's also really nice that that damn thing's landing on your form. It feels pretty good. Have a little bit of, you know, a little cushion, and you could pretty much get the best workout of your life with 2 things. You know what I mean just Kettlebell, kettle guards, and not a whole lot of space. And so I said, I'm sold. 94 00:15:38.300 --> 00:15:41.169 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Size of a size of a phone booth and a kettlebell, and. 95 00:15:41.170 --> 00:15:41.700 Jessica DiBiase: Correct. 96 00:15:41.700 --> 00:15:47.350 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: You know, Kettle Kettle guards, if Kettle guards for for those of for those of you that don't have, you know, massive wrists like mine. 97 00:15:47.350 --> 00:15:50.350 Jessica DiBiase: Hey? Sure, I don't have active risk. You know what I mean or like. 98 00:15:50.350 --> 00:16:03.510 Jessica DiBiase: or just want to have the option of freaking having the thing I mean. It's not. It's you don't have to buy 7 jackets to do this. There's not a lot. It's not like ice hockey, you know what I mean, or lacrosse, or any of these sports that are wonderful. But you need, you know. 99 00:16:03.510 --> 00:16:24.959 Jessica DiBiase: huge bags. But we you know we were crazy, Jordan. We. At 1 point we know we would carry our Kettlebells. I remember going through the Denver airport, which is like 10 towns, you know, just like I'm still sweating from walking through that airport right? Carrying my 45 pound 20 Kg, Kettlebell through the Denver freaking airport. Put it on, I mean, people thought we were the bombs, I mean it was nuts. 100 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:25.899 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: But you know. 101 00:16:25.900 --> 00:16:52.389 Jessica DiBiase: Know I had. I had tunnel vision. I just I saw one thing. I knew what I knew. You know. I knew how powerful this sport is, and I still do. You know, now I have the same passion and the same conviction. I know what it can do for people. I know what it's done for me. I know that it's kept me in the strongest shape, and mentally and physically ever, you know. And it's done that for thousands of people I've worked with, and it continues to kind of be this 102 00:16:52.470 --> 00:17:09.180 Jessica DiBiase: cool, still, fringy, and niche movement. But a hell of a lot, you know, bigger and no one, you know. Now, when you know you kind of arrive, when you see Jennifer Lopez and Alex Rodriguez and one of their gyms they own. Do you know what I mean? I saw it like 6 years ago, when they were a thing. Maybe that was whatever before she was with Ben affleck, but I remember seeing. 103 00:17:09.180 --> 00:17:10.669 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Again, which time? Yeah. 104 00:17:10.670 --> 00:17:38.570 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah, the the second time. But I remember just looking at them. And like they were doing some kind of swing with it. And I thought, Okay, perfect. And they were carrying Kettlebell football. So it wasn't like your black, you know your typical one. So. But in any event, I I just. I knew I knew what it could do, and I knew that it would help a lot of people, and it was really fun to be back to competing again, and something that I loved, and it was fun to break barriers doing it, you know, as a woman, and and something that was kind of traditionally a. 105 00:17:38.730 --> 00:17:43.679 Jessica DiBiase: you know, Hans and Franz kind of thing, and he's you know what I mean. He's like big pickle juice drinking 106 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:44.120 Jessica DiBiase: don't see. 107 00:17:44.120 --> 00:17:46.060 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Dude. Yeah, yeah. 108 00:17:46.340 --> 00:17:51.412 Jessica DiBiase: The women's. They can't. They can't use the 2 Kettlebells because it hurt the breasts like 109 00:17:51.730 --> 00:17:54.979 Jessica DiBiase: right the whole thing. So I really love just 110 00:17:55.100 --> 00:18:08.630 Jessica DiBiase: thinking that that you know, I had some really small part. And this movement that's now, you know, big and awesome, and has beautiful humans like yourself that are part of it. I mean, it's a pretty badass community of 111 00:18:08.650 --> 00:18:12.470 Jessica DiBiase: really exceptional human. Honestly, you know. 112 00:18:12.470 --> 00:18:13.519 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: He is. Well, thank thank you. 113 00:18:13.520 --> 00:18:13.900 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah. 114 00:18:14.158 --> 00:18:23.962 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: I. You are not a small part. You are a pretty. You're a pretty major part of this of this journey, especially for women like. Let's, I mean, let's let's be real like this. Sport was very patriarchal. 115 00:18:24.220 --> 00:18:24.780 Jessica DiBiase: Anyway. 116 00:18:24.780 --> 00:18:33.500 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: It's still it still has some some pretty strong patriarchal tendencies, but, like one of the things I was always so impressed with from the from the ice chamber. 117 00:18:33.950 --> 00:18:37.020 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Was you guys really like just 118 00:18:37.080 --> 00:18:49.730 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: shattered the whole perception that that women can't compete in this sport, or they can't handle the heavy weights, or they can't like, yeah, like you, you compete. You competed in what weight class? But I know you. 119 00:18:49.730 --> 00:18:53.229 Jessica DiBiase: 58. Kg, yep, when I 120 00:18:53.519 --> 00:19:14.780 Jessica DiBiase: got I'm looking at actually. So yeah. So, Master Sport, November 7.th I have to remember like what year that was, and that was the Akc classic in Las Vegas, and that's when I 1st got that was that was like the 1st title in the Us. And then and then I was at 1 point the North American Record holder and 24 Kg. Biathlon and I was in the 58 Kg weight class at that time. 121 00:19:14.780 --> 00:19:18.400 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: So you're you're like, I'm gonna take this. I'm gonna take this bell. That's like 122 00:19:18.420 --> 00:19:21.009 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: 43% of my body weight. 123 00:19:21.010 --> 00:19:24.989 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Yep, I'm going to lift it over my head over a hundred times. 124 00:19:25.370 --> 00:19:44.089 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: putting it down intent like, and and for like there was just it. I it was just one of those things that it it pushed the the boundaries and really kind of challenged the perception that a lot of people, the the assumption or the preconceived notion that people had that that women can't lift heavy, or if you can be, you gotta be. You got to be big, and you know, like. 125 00:19:44.090 --> 00:19:44.560 Jessica DiBiase: 100%. 126 00:19:44.560 --> 00:19:50.179 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: And like I remember the 1st the 1st time I saw you snatching the 24 kg, I was like 127 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:55.519 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: holy shit, like she is skinny, and just 128 00:19:56.340 --> 00:20:15.780 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: why and here I am. This like 280 pound former college offensive lineman, like, you know, working with a 16 or a 20 and and suffer. I was like holy shit. This woman is incredible. So like it was, it was really really cool to see you and and see the whole team, because. 129 00:20:15.780 --> 00:20:16.290 Jessica DiBiase: I mean. 130 00:20:16.290 --> 00:20:32.450 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: You guys had, just, you know, a little bit of success on on the on the International, on the international stage, with the the ice chamber. What were some of the highlights for you from a from a performance perspective? And we'll pause. Good answer. Answer your kiddos question. 131 00:20:32.850 --> 00:20:38.300 Jessica DiBiase: Gemma, I'm doing an interview. Can I finish with Jordan? And then I'll come and we'll talk all about music. 132 00:20:38.730 --> 00:20:39.989 Jessica DiBiase: We will. 133 00:20:40.800 --> 00:20:46.099 Jessica DiBiase: I did you ask me like you like some of like just the highlights from competing. 134 00:20:46.100 --> 00:20:48.339 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Yeah, so I'll I'll I'll just read. We'll we'll we'll. 135 00:20:48.340 --> 00:20:59.177 Jessica DiBiase: I was totally listening to you. I'm you know, the beautiful thing about being like but an entrepreneur, a Kettlebell athlete, and a mom all. At the same time. I'm like I can do a snatch. I can answer a question. I can. 136 00:20:59.678 --> 00:21:00.670 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: At the same time. 137 00:21:00.670 --> 00:21:02.900 Jessica DiBiase: No, I think you go ahead. 138 00:21:02.900 --> 00:21:05.029 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: What were some of your highlights from from 139 00:21:05.060 --> 00:21:19.140 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: your time with the ice chamber competing with those incredible women like what were what were just some of the highlights that were like memories that stick out to you. While you guys were were doing this, some of the most impressive performances that that you saw, either from yourself or from your teammates. 140 00:21:19.490 --> 00:21:34.979 Jessica DiBiase: Well, they were all they were really, I mean. So so you know, the the gym was amazing, because it did kind of house this the start of this, you know, and people will kind of come visit us from all over the world. It was kind of this neat sort of like. 141 00:21:35.180 --> 00:21:43.679 Jessica DiBiase: you know, moment in time. So I feel like it's always cool to be the 1st to something. You know what I mean kind of it's exciting, because no one's really 142 00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:44.100 Jessica DiBiase: cheese. 143 00:21:44.100 --> 00:21:57.299 Jessica DiBiase: right? Yeah. And they I think everybody that I was a part of, and that wasn't even part of like the founding team, but just went on to compete around there and at and at the gym. Were amazing, because they were all 144 00:21:57.350 --> 00:22:04.040 Jessica DiBiase: they were all you know, a lot of them, I think. Actually, all of them were moms right. They were also 145 00:22:04.280 --> 00:22:27.580 Jessica DiBiase: working professionals, running their own businesses or being part of businesses. And and they were really like training, really hard. And and we were also like trying to figure it out. We were kind of creating algorithms for it, too. We were creating chain training manuals and blueprints for something that really hadn't necessarily been done. So there was, I think, that part was just exciting, because it was like front front 146 00:22:27.580 --> 00:22:49.029 Jessica DiBiase: around your front line like we were we were creating. So when you're in that creating mode, I think that is just super exciting. And then also, just I think we all just sort of knew you were in kind of the secret society where you you knew with that like game recognized game right? You see, you're like, Oh, my God, I know at minute 7 your mouth is like you know what I mean. You can like barely breathe, and you're trying 147 00:22:49.030 --> 00:22:49.480 Jessica DiBiase: the desk. 148 00:22:49.480 --> 00:23:09.499 Jessica DiBiase: And God right! You're just driving. And you're like, Oh, my God! And you just need to kind of drop your elbow, and you're just trying to get that backswing. And there's just so many things that are going through your head and and you just know that that person knows, and even though you had family or friends come watch, they didn't know what you knew. It's that was like, I think that was super exciting. I mean. 149 00:23:09.610 --> 00:23:12.179 Jessica DiBiase: I think there was a lot of of 150 00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:19.770 Jessica DiBiase: I mean, when the one I told you like, I mean, I really remember going to Colorado and going and carrying those bells. That was really a very 151 00:23:19.910 --> 00:23:26.620 Jessica DiBiase: momentous moment, because we we all were carrying them. I mean, we're nuts like we're I mean, literally walking first, st like. 152 00:23:26.620 --> 00:23:28.490 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: How many girls were there on the team at that point? 153 00:23:28.710 --> 00:23:46.179 Jessica DiBiase: I think there was. I think there was 4 of us. I I think it was myself. I think it might have been Maya at that point. Maybe, Sarah, I was really, honestly trying to remember all. Sometimes when I think about it, like it feels like it happened yesterday, and then it feels like it was, you know, many moons ago, and yet it's all kind of 154 00:23:46.180 --> 00:24:00.849 Jessica DiBiase: so it's so. It's been such a huge part of my life. I've never really like left it, you know. I've been fortunate enough to be so in this game, you know, doing it like for a long time. I think a lot of them, haven't. They? Don't eat anymore they're not doing. There's still, I think they might still be involved in it. But 155 00:24:00.850 --> 00:24:19.699 Jessica DiBiase: but I think just might have been 4 of us that I want to say. But we were all just like totally sweating, you know, just carrying this thing, putting them through the like. That little baggage, you know thing, and having the alarm go off, and literally people thinking that they were like absolute bombs, because we were manually we were carrying them. They were like our carry on bag. I mean, it's 156 00:24:19.760 --> 00:24:21.432 Jessica DiBiase: it's just insane. 157 00:24:22.060 --> 00:24:23.190 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: I think. 158 00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:42.849 Jessica DiBiase: I think the the weigh in, you know, I mean oh, my God, right, the weird ass things you do! There was like a competition in New York. I remember the Reebok gym at that point, and we're, you know, hanging out in a freaking sauna, for probably I don't know too long I kept going up to get weight. 159 00:24:42.850 --> 00:24:45.890 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: There are half heavyweight problems you're talking about. 160 00:24:45.890 --> 00:24:46.890 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah, that's. 161 00:24:46.890 --> 00:24:48.710 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Heavyweight. I have no idea what you're. 162 00:24:48.710 --> 00:25:08.759 Jessica DiBiase: This was like between, because people would go on. It's kind of crazy. And I was like not crazy like if it's 1 pound, and that means that like it's a differential of like 25 reps. You can be darn sure I'm gonna sit in that, Sauna. I don't care, anybody says, for like another couple of minutes, just to make sure that I made weight. But you know, I mean, this is all this. These are all kind of these 163 00:25:08.760 --> 00:25:23.369 Jessica DiBiase: funny stories and the things that we would all do together, and just the the weird snacks we'd have and the music we'd listen to. And I think you know those are some of the things that you know sort of really stand out in my mind. But we were supportive of each other, and 164 00:25:23.370 --> 00:25:28.999 Jessica DiBiase: it definitely. I think we did the best that we could to kind of have a 165 00:25:29.821 --> 00:25:36.660 Jessica DiBiase: you know a sisterhood at times. It did, you know. I think there were moments where Steve was a little like 166 00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:42.249 Jessica DiBiase: Bella Carol Ish. You know what I mean, all of us. I think he was pretty like he was coaching us for a while, and it was like. 167 00:25:42.260 --> 00:25:51.730 Jessica DiBiase: you know, double days. And we I mean, we were really probably, if if anything, I think there were times we were just probably over training and training too hard, because we just wanted to be the best 168 00:25:51.820 --> 00:26:07.910 Jessica DiBiase: right? And so we were kind of we were. Just we, that's all we could see was just whatever that meant. So you know, there were things that you probably would look back on a guy probably didn't need to do all that. That was a little overkill but we did. We did work really hard, and we 169 00:26:08.110 --> 00:26:23.770 Jessica DiBiase: we really tried to bring our best like we took it seriously, like we were a professional operation, if you will. We didn't just pick up this thing and and show up with, you know, jeans on like we came. We came as freaking, prepared as possible. 170 00:26:23.940 --> 00:26:30.449 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: So what do you think has evolved in your approach of from like both. 171 00:26:30.450 --> 00:26:30.960 Jessica DiBiase: No. 172 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:46.300 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Training and programming from those days to now, because we all look back and like Oh, man! If I only knew! If I only knew then what I know now. So for for that reflection, what are some of the things that you look back on? And you're like? 173 00:26:46.330 --> 00:26:53.309 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Oh, I would have done this differently? Or how has your training approach kind of evolved since since those those early days. 174 00:26:54.455 --> 00:26:55.060 Jessica DiBiase: I 175 00:26:55.120 --> 00:27:13.039 Jessica DiBiase: thank you for asking that, too, I would say, like 100 unequivocally, I just not overtraining anymore. Now, I think I'm not overtrained anymore because I just it. I don't. It doesn't warrant that, like I still believe it or not like I. So I, Biathlon, but I have not 176 00:27:13.140 --> 00:27:15.610 Jessica DiBiase: gotten my master of sport in 177 00:27:15.650 --> 00:27:44.693 Jessica DiBiase: snatch only, and that is still my goal. So I still have to crack. I've got 98, but I've not hit a hundred at 58 kg. 100 freaking snatches. So I am still believe it or not, Jordan Yay going after that goal, and I've had 2 babies and businesses and deaths and Covid and all the things. But I'm still. I'm still going to hit that goal, and it'll be so stinking sweet when I do, but I don't need to. I was really over training 178 00:27:45.020 --> 00:27:58.160 Jessica DiBiase: I was just doing more than I needed to, and it just, you know, you hit a wall at a certain point, because Kettleball sport is really psychological. I know every sport is, but there's just there's the mental piece. So now, when I think about it like 179 00:27:58.160 --> 00:28:19.170 Jessica DiBiase: I'm training my, you know, from my head down, not from my chin down. And I don't think that I thought about what I needed. I just if it was like in my training program. And that's what Tuesday said to do. I was going to do Tuesday. You know what I mean, if Thursday like, I didn't go. You know, just how do you feel today? I didn't do enough of that. So I think now I I do more of that. 180 00:28:19.170 --> 00:28:30.340 Jessica DiBiase: I realize that you don't need to, you know, overtrain to get better. If anything. I think you know, you can get the results that you need without doing that. I've I've I've really kind of 181 00:28:30.540 --> 00:28:41.559 Jessica DiBiase: change, and also, like my timeline is my timeline doesn't belong to somebody else's anymore. Right? When you're part of a team or you're under a coach, or you're, you know you have a different, you know. 182 00:28:41.610 --> 00:29:01.639 Jessica DiBiase: Gym, or whatever it is. There was a different kind of pressure. I constantly felt, and I just don't. And and I just don't feel that pressure anymore, like I've done everything you know what I mean, I don't have anything to prove now. Everything that I'm proving is to myself. It's not other people, you know. I hope I can continue to be inspiring to other people, because that's what I want to be, but nothing to prove to anybody else. 183 00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:02.840 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Absolutely. I love that. 184 00:29:02.840 --> 00:29:04.139 Jessica DiBiase: So my training reflects that. 185 00:29:04.140 --> 00:29:07.760 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Do you, Co? Do you coach any athletes currently in Kettlebell? Sport. 186 00:29:07.970 --> 00:29:22.863 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I I totally do. And I I now it. It's awesome, like Lorna and I have found our way, you know back together again. It's another amazing human who I've had the pleasure of, you know, working and training alongside. And I just 187 00:29:23.660 --> 00:29:49.189 Jessica DiBiase: I know I love her. She's just the best, right? She's just like. So she's also so New York, you know. I love her. She's just so. But we you know, we become. We've always been great friends, and now we we get to to train with each other, too. So we train virtually, and that's been another great thing. I think you know my before Covid happened, I did a ton of virtual training with my clients because they were just. They're erratic and they're busy. But I think, once 188 00:29:49.190 --> 00:30:06.219 Jessica DiBiase: Covid set in, and I just think it just changed the whole dynamic right like you can. You can compete virtually if you need to. And so just I think it like made the buried entry a little bit less steep like, oh, you want to do, or even just now, here's another thing when we were competing. It was like you competed in 10 min sets 189 00:30:06.300 --> 00:30:26.000 Jessica DiBiase: you competed in like Bialon. You competed in snatch only, or it was now I think they've just now. There's 5 min sets, and there's, you know there's or there's 30 min, or you know, there's just more to choose from, and I can tell you right now that, like a 5 min set is a lot easier for somebody who's new to the sport to get into doing than like 10 min, I mean So 190 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:42.470 Jessica DiBiase: I do. But yes, I definitely, you know, have clients that I'm training all ages and all stages in the game, and you know, it's it's actually really cool. I have, you know, stay at home, moms that are like hell. Yeah, you know what I mean, like, I found the sport, and I've had 191 00:30:42.470 --> 00:31:08.989 Jessica DiBiase: ones that have been, you know, in it, og. Athletes that are coming back being like I want you to train me. I want to, just, you know. Keep on working. It to excel in the sport. I have one client who's, you know, in her seventies has been compete. I love her competing in kind of all sports. She's international for you know. I don't know 10 or 15 years, too. So it's really neat. I mean, it's a really nice collection of people. I cannot say. There's just like one style of, you know, athlete really like. 192 00:31:09.321 --> 00:31:10.980 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: That is fantastic. So how? 193 00:31:10.980 --> 00:31:11.759 Jessica DiBiase: Okay. Cool. 194 00:31:11.760 --> 00:31:30.460 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: How do you thread the needle that you're just that you just articulated for yourself where you're like? I didn't need to train as frequently as I as I thought I needed to to make the progress that I wanted to make, and you were probably overtraining. But also this sport requires a decent amount of volume, consistency, conditioning all of those things. So how do you thread that needle of? 195 00:31:30.688 --> 00:31:47.799 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: With your athletes of not overtraining them and giving them the permission structure to check in with their body and not just being like well, Coach said to do this. So this is what I'm going to do, because that's something I struggle with sometimes as a coach where it's like, how do I make sure that I give my athletes the permission structure to listen to their body while still making sure that they're 196 00:31:47.930 --> 00:31:52.429 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: training appropriately for the goals that they've set or the goals that we've set together. 197 00:31:53.070 --> 00:32:12.169 Jessica DiBiase: I think that is always going to be something that's super organic and hard as a coach. So I love to say, Hey, Jordan, like. Here's exactly what I do, and it works perfectly. You know what I mean. You're like. Give me the goddamn answer I would love. That's an answer. I'd love to have you know, like that that I just that is like a a sure shot. I try to lead by example. 198 00:32:12.910 --> 00:32:22.140 Jessica DiBiase: so I try to let them know. Like I, I'm not perfect, not the exact thing you should follow. But here is what I'm doing, and it's working 199 00:32:22.403 --> 00:32:36.609 Jessica DiBiase: and I think just in the same way Dr. Gabrielle lines. I love her, but she says, you know, finally, muscular skeletal health is having its time in the sun. You know what I mean? Or and finally, we're having conversations. Now, more about like, how do you build your musculoskeletal health? How do you build 200 00:32:36.610 --> 00:32:54.609 Jessica DiBiase: strength? How do you not just like become obsessed with just Cardio all day long? And nothing's wrong with Cardio. But I think now we're seeing that like strength is the real king. Right, Cardio, the Queen strength is king. And so you just don't. You know, I think there's a different focus and a different thing around that when you just kind of reframe it a little bit, I think people can see it differently. 201 00:32:54.610 --> 00:32:58.229 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Yeah. And I think I think there's a different experience based on gender on that, because. 202 00:32:58.230 --> 00:32:59.329 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah, I agree. 203 00:32:59.330 --> 00:33:04.869 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: For for me like I was. Never! I was never a Cardio queen. Shocking! I don't. I don't mean to. I don't mean to. 204 00:33:05.360 --> 00:33:06.340 Jessica DiBiase: Yes, totally. 205 00:33:06.340 --> 00:33:16.739 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: You startle anybody. But I was never a cardio queen. But I was always pushed to like get bigger, faster, stronger, right? That was always the thing right, like as a as a dude. You always want. 206 00:33:16.910 --> 00:33:41.309 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: You always wanted to be big and strong, right? So I would like lifting heavy was never demonized for me. Like my. You know I was. I was always pushed to lift, to lift heavy weights. But I feel like that. It like for women that is now finally having its moment in the sun, and on the other side of it. For men like you've got Joel Jamieson, who I have a ton of respect for, and is a great conditioning coach. You know, reinforcing for men like Hey. 207 00:33:41.310 --> 00:34:00.899 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Cardio is not going to kill your gains. Bro, it's actually going to make sure that you don't die. And it actually helps with my real turnover. And if you actually want to be able to recover from your hypertrophy sessions you need. You need an aerobic base to build from so like. Don't skip your Cardio day just like you don't skip leg day like maybe you should focus more on your resting heart rate than your Max Bench, you know, like like. 208 00:34:00.900 --> 00:34:15.229 Jessica DiBiase: I mean, it sounds like you are definitely I'm like, I'll take a page from your playbook, I mean, I think I think everything that you just said is really good. And I think what you're giving people is not only the emotional permission, but you're giving them a little science 209 00:34:15.340 --> 00:34:23.400 Jessica DiBiase: to sink their teeth into right. So you're kind of saying look like clinically, this might be something you may want to think about right. And also, I think 210 00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:27.810 Jessica DiBiase: I I really do think I sound like my parents right now. But I really do think that 211 00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:42.149 Jessica DiBiase: with technology and social media, and just like all the things in our heads. I our time is less. You know what I mean like, we just don't have the same time, because there's just way, more distractions and way more things pulling at our time. So 212 00:34:42.199 --> 00:35:01.060 Jessica DiBiase: I think that it they're almost they almost appreciate when you give them permission to not have to spend, you know, 45 min, or an hour, or whatever doing that. They're like cool. You know what I mean. I can get this done. And I I also just think that I've been a huge proponent my whole life. And certainly 213 00:35:01.210 --> 00:35:03.180 Jessica DiBiase: in the in the last years I just 214 00:35:03.220 --> 00:35:06.359 Jessica DiBiase: diversification. Same way you would like, you know. 215 00:35:06.600 --> 00:35:24.889 Jessica DiBiase: change your stocks around in in financial investing. You want the same thing, I think, with, you know your body gets your brain gets bored, your body gets bored, so I've never done, you know. I try to mix up one of my Kettlebell I mean, my sets are different. I try to mix those up, even though it's like, you know, Kettlebell sport. But I've done. 216 00:35:24.890 --> 00:35:37.960 Jessica DiBiase: you know, lots of different ways to train them and not just going. I used to go in. So put it this way, Jordan, I used to go in. I would just just do 10 min snatch sets and 8 min like oh, my God! It would just be too much! And now I'll do, you know. 217 00:35:38.410 --> 00:35:50.610 Jessica DiBiase: a 4 min set, or I'll do intervals now, or I'll take a God forbid! I'll do, Max, on one hand, take a 90 second break. I would never have allowed myself to do that and pick up the the Kettlebell and do the other. I know it sounds crazy. But like 218 00:35:50.610 --> 00:36:14.799 Jessica DiBiase: I yeah, I know. I mean, it was like I would never have done that. So my my training. It's like I'm still using the same modalities, Jordan. I'm just using them differently. Right? It's like that's I would say, that's those are the differences right, like the ingredients in the kitchen are still kind of the same, but I'm just making different dishes with them now, and that's exactly kind of you know what I'm doing, and I just I don't know. I've always. I've always been a big fan, and just like mixing 219 00:36:14.830 --> 00:36:36.680 Jessica DiBiase: shit up. I don't want it to look or be the same. But I also think that the basics are great, like you can add a lot to like, you know. Good lettuce. You can put lots of cool toppings on that, but make it a strong bed of Arugula and Romaine and bun greens, and add what you want to it. But I like the idea of combining and just keeping the basics there, but changing the toppings around. 220 00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:42.610 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Yeah, no, that I I agree. And because, especially if you're gonna do it as long as you and I have been doing 221 00:36:42.610 --> 00:36:43.020 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: yes. 222 00:36:43.020 --> 00:36:48.090 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: I've been doing it longer than I've been doing it. But like, if you're gonna do it, if you're gonna be doing it for over 10 years like 223 00:36:48.120 --> 00:36:51.699 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: you need to change it up. You can't just be doing the same things over and over, and it's. 224 00:36:51.700 --> 00:36:53.160 Jessica DiBiase: Definitely, it's okay to thank you. 225 00:36:53.160 --> 00:37:05.440 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Break. It's okay to be like, I've I can't tell you how many athletes I've had be like, I really, I really think I want to take like a few months off from picking up the Kettlebell, and just do like Barbell or yoga, or I want to do. And I'm like fuck. Yeah, let's do it 226 00:37:05.550 --> 00:37:07.250 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: definitely, definitely. 227 00:37:07.250 --> 00:37:07.610 Jessica DiBiase: Lately. 228 00:37:07.610 --> 00:37:13.630 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Like, wait what I'm like. I'm like, you don't see Nfl players training for football all year round. You don't see. 229 00:37:13.630 --> 00:37:14.020 Jessica DiBiase: That. 230 00:37:14.020 --> 00:37:25.620 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Like every every professional athlete that competes in a sport professionally has an off season. Nobody competes year round, right, like the only professional athletes that I can think of that compete year round are Kettlebell sport athletes. 231 00:37:25.670 --> 00:37:29.380 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: and it's like like that doesn't make any sense to me. It's like. 232 00:37:29.380 --> 00:37:31.630 Jessica DiBiase: No, it it doesn't. Nope, you're totally right. 233 00:37:31.630 --> 00:37:37.170 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Like, periodize your programming in the same way any other athlete does. And that's that's totally okay. 234 00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:42.770 Jessica DiBiase: That's exactly right. Yup, and that. And it's just nice enough to. I have a strength coach, and I've got 235 00:37:43.180 --> 00:37:54.690 Jessica DiBiase: like a training partner. And so I also I also kind of sometimes don't rely on my head. I rely on them. You know what I mean to help me like. Come up with plans, and I also allow myself to do. Yeah, we do right. 236 00:37:54.720 --> 00:38:05.529 Jessica DiBiase: And you know I laugh. I'm I'm part of the trend, but you know, throw on a weighted vest, and like also be outside and like hit the hills and put on a podcast and you know what I mean do that too. So I think there's just. 237 00:38:05.530 --> 00:38:06.290 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Good things to do. 238 00:38:06.290 --> 00:38:32.160 Jessica DiBiase: Isn't it great? So right? And you can educate yourself and listen and talk, and do all the magical things that happen with your brain. So it's just I think it's just, you know. I'd like to think that, you know I'm just evolving. But in order to stay healthy and as injury free as possible, and loving what you're doing. Just don't overdo it. You know what I mean like. And so that's kind of the key. I think that's what I've been doing. 239 00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:33.720 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Everything in moderation made it work. 240 00:38:33.720 --> 00:38:34.540 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Veneration. 241 00:38:34.540 --> 00:38:44.589 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah, and and just making sure that I'm that I'm balancing. But I you know I love Kettleball sport in the way I've been able to love it. It's not doing it every day, you know, mixing it up with 242 00:38:44.780 --> 00:38:50.719 Jessica DiBiase: steady state, Cardio. And you know, strength work on top of that. It's just it made me feel good. 243 00:38:50.910 --> 00:38:59.290 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: So I have. I have a 2 part question for you. And I'll tell you both parts, and then we'll take them one by one Kettlebell. Sport, I think, is is 244 00:38:59.370 --> 00:39:13.399 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: very different than any other discipline. So I want to. I want to. That's the 1st part is, it's it's very different than anything else. And what makes it what makes it different and sets it apart from other disciplines? But then it also has greater transferability to other disciplines, I think, than almost any other sport I've ever 245 00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:14.760 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: I couldn't agree more. I love that 246 00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:22.859 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: encountered. So I want to take the 1st one, the 1st part 1st is, you know, what do you think sets it apart from other disciplines, and then we'll say, like, what makes it so transferable. 247 00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:26.990 Jessica DiBiase: What sets it apart is, I mean, I've said this. 248 00:39:27.080 --> 00:39:43.080 Jessica DiBiase: I think forever. I've still not found something that I mean. You kind of get your cake and eat it, too. Right? It's it's pretty darn awesome for strengthening your muscles, and it's pretty darn freaking cardiovascular. You know what I mean. Like Whoa! Right to have. 249 00:39:43.080 --> 00:39:44.520 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: It's a. 250 00:39:44.520 --> 00:40:06.590 Jessica DiBiase: Got a mobility. I mean, it's and it it just combines. You know, the the swing and the hinge movement. I mean, it's like there's just so many wonderful things that all happen at the same time when you do it. That's very, very unique to kind of, you know, any sport. But the idea that you do kind of get the like 2 main things. I feel like that you're after, which is like, you know. 251 00:40:06.700 --> 00:40:18.279 Jessica DiBiase: getting the muscular skeletal health, power, endurance, and cardiovascular like benefits. Just seems sort of like out of this world, right? I've yet to find something that quite gives you those simultaneously right together. 252 00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:19.860 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Wear and tear on your joints. 253 00:40:19.860 --> 00:40:31.220 Jessica DiBiase: Wear and tear on your joints, which is the second thing I was gonna say, because that you get something that is legitimately, fairly high intensity without the impact. I just don't know where I can't find that. 254 00:40:31.230 --> 00:40:38.330 Jessica DiBiase: So you know, I would say that that would be how it's I really think it, it sets itself apart. 255 00:40:38.330 --> 00:40:48.850 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Okay, I love that. It's you. I think that that's a great answer, right? It gets you more of the. It gives you more of all of the good things, with less of the with less like, you can still get joint injuries and overuse injuries. But. 256 00:40:48.850 --> 00:40:49.770 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah, it's not perfect. 257 00:40:49.770 --> 00:40:51.460 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: That's anything right? 258 00:40:51.460 --> 00:40:52.710 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah, that's right, yeah. 259 00:40:52.710 --> 00:41:01.469 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: There's a much lower risk profile in that regard. I love that. And then so what do you think makes it transfer so well, because we were talking about this before. 260 00:41:01.470 --> 00:41:02.010 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah. 261 00:41:02.010 --> 00:41:07.160 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Like it's it's that like this is. This is one of those things like as a football athlete. I'm like. 262 00:41:07.160 --> 00:41:07.730 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah. 263 00:41:07.730 --> 00:41:19.750 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: And I wish I had known about Kettlebell sport when I was a high school football player, right like I'd have been a even better high school and college football player had I known about Kettlebell sport back then, you know, so like, what? What is it that you think that? And and like. 264 00:41:19.750 --> 00:41:20.140 Jessica DiBiase: Gosh! 265 00:41:20.140 --> 00:41:23.010 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: My daughter does it, and it helps her with hockey, like, okay. 266 00:41:23.010 --> 00:41:33.430 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: I've had other athletes. It helps with wrestling. It helps with so many sports like it has such great transferability like, what is it that you think about it that makes it so transferable to other as well. 267 00:41:33.430 --> 00:41:48.219 Jessica DiBiase: I gosh! I mean, you and I were saying this. I always think it's like it's like, you know, my, your daughter plays, you know ice hockey, and it's like that, you know. It helps her, like, you know, protect herself. But she's a goalie. It's the hardest part. My son plays water pole. It's the heart, you know. It's like it's like helps you when you're out there. 268 00:41:48.370 --> 00:41:55.678 Jessica DiBiase: you know, kicking in egg beater position for like freaking an hour. You know what I mean like literally in the middle of of a pool. 269 00:41:56.330 --> 00:42:22.809 Jessica DiBiase: I you know, from an anatomy standpoint I don't know that I could tell you specifically why it is so transferable to gosh, darn near any freaking sport. Yoga, running football. You know what I mean. Volleyball water polo swimming. So I I don't know. Besides, the obvious. Besides, it is really total body conditioning. I'm not sure exactly what muscle isn't being used. I think one time I read 270 00:42:22.810 --> 00:42:36.450 Jessica DiBiase: there were 400 muscles being recruited and activating. When you do a freaking Kettlebell swing, that's a shit ton of muscles that are happening so to me. I just think you're naturally covering your bases with the amount of muscle usage in the body. 271 00:42:36.610 --> 00:42:40.976 Jessica DiBiase: You want to know my real reason. I think it is psychological. 272 00:42:41.340 --> 00:42:42.519 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: I was, I was thinking the same. 273 00:42:42.520 --> 00:43:06.429 Jessica DiBiase: Like. I think that, like it is just a massive mind body, you know, experience that in that I have yet to other than I laugh, and you know I didn't want to do this, but I did give birth to a 9 and a half and a 10 pound baby. Naturally, I might say that's the hardest thing next to this I've ever done. But even this sport helped me psychologically prepare for that event in my life. 274 00:43:06.913 --> 00:43:26.009 Jessica DiBiase: It just did everything from the breath work to feeling like I'm literally underwater, and I can't breathe and trying to keep my heart rate down. But I've never done anything so psychologically taxing and physically at the same time. Is this so? I would say there's a massive amount of muscle recruitment. 275 00:43:26.040 --> 00:43:30.400 Jessica DiBiase: But there's a massive amount of like mental recruitment, too. 276 00:43:30.600 --> 00:43:32.460 Jessica DiBiase: That's my my theory. 277 00:43:33.640 --> 00:43:34.420 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: I think you're right. 278 00:43:34.420 --> 00:43:44.559 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: I agree with you, and I think the only thing that I've ever found that that came close to being as psychologically stressful as this is combat sports. Where, like, you're actually. 279 00:43:44.930 --> 00:43:46.700 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: you get punched in the face like boxing. 280 00:43:46.700 --> 00:43:47.370 Jessica DiBiase: Sure. 281 00:43:47.680 --> 00:43:58.330 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Brazilian jiujitsu, like those are physically taxing, and also very mentally, very mentally, taxing. But obviously there's a cost associated with those like, you know I had to get my nose fixed because of boxing. 282 00:43:58.330 --> 00:43:59.790 Jessica DiBiase: That's right. Isn't this great like? 283 00:43:59.790 --> 00:44:00.200 Jessica DiBiase: No, I 284 00:44:00.200 --> 00:44:12.082 Jessica DiBiase: I think about this all the time. I'm like, I don't want to be an Mma fighter. I don't want to be a boxer. I don't want to be a wrestler, so this is perfect, you know. I'll stay right here in this lane. It's kind of a smart lane. 285 00:44:12.630 --> 00:44:18.329 Jessica DiBiase: all the serotonin and adrenaline and everything else without. You know that kind of hit to the nose. 286 00:44:18.330 --> 00:44:26.259 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: It's still like it gives you so many times to to show you how often your mind is a liar like it. Every training session. 287 00:44:26.260 --> 00:44:28.960 Jessica DiBiase: Every training, session, everyone. 288 00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:38.200 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: That your mind will lie to you about what you're capable of, and why you should stop. And you know, why do you do this to yourself, and then, if you push through it. 289 00:44:38.430 --> 00:44:38.910 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah. 290 00:44:38.910 --> 00:44:43.310 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Then you come out the other side, and you're like, Yeah, no, I can. I can do hard shit. I can do this. 291 00:44:43.510 --> 00:45:13.200 Jessica DiBiase: I love you for that, Jordan, I would say. That's exactly. I walk away saying that exact same thing like I literally get done with it, and I can do hard shit. And sometimes I literally just pop on. And I'm like I just did a 10. I have to tell everybody. I just said 10 min set. I'm breathing super heavy, but I just did 75 snatches with the 20 kg. On each arm, and I did it in my living room, and I really didn't want to do this tonight, but it's raining cats and dogs, and didn't want to be outside in my home gym, and I wanted to come in, and I did it, and I feel really good. And it's amazing. I'm going to share this goodness with 292 00:45:13.200 --> 00:45:33.819 Jessica DiBiase: whoever gets to, you know, encounter me after this, but it it does it just. It really changes the landscape for yourself and I I've always wished that for people. It's why I've been and will continue to be like a big proponent of of this sport, because I know what it can do physically and psychologically for somebody, and that's a gift that's a gift. 293 00:45:34.050 --> 00:45:37.830 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Absolutely thank you for gifting me, though, do you? Do you? 294 00:45:38.490 --> 00:45:53.539 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Do you remind yourself after like, when when you have a day where you're like, like today, where you're like. I don't really want to do this, and then you do it, and then you feel better. Do you like make a mental note of that like, hey, remember that. Remember that you didn't want to do this, and and remember how good you feel right now, because I. 295 00:45:53.540 --> 00:45:58.590 Jessica DiBiase: I, I 100%. Do I do? Yeah, I actually do. I'm doing that more. I'm I'm taking. 296 00:45:58.590 --> 00:45:58.990 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: And then. 297 00:45:58.990 --> 00:46:28.300 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah, I'm taking inventory. I'm trying to use it as a little mini, you know. Meditation, I think years ago we found like a Kettle guard, you know, commercial or something. Just this, and I remember thinking that it was like, you know, I called it a movement, but it was like meditative, and there was all these kind of things, and I still see it that way still, see it as like a my own kind of mini meditation. But I do stop, and I'm super present, and I do think to myself, I'm really happy, you know. I look at my body. I'm like, but thank you for allowing me to do this, because. 298 00:46:28.380 --> 00:46:37.260 Jessica DiBiase: you know, I it brings me a lot of a lot of joy, you know. And now I just kind of. I sort of. I'm more grounded in that that space, too. 299 00:46:38.046 --> 00:46:43.030 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: When you're when you are, when you're in the groove on a snatch set. 300 00:46:43.150 --> 00:46:51.819 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: does your mind go blank, and and you just like you're just like in your breath, or are you always thinking something technical? Is there always something that you're focused on. 301 00:46:51.820 --> 00:47:14.060 Jessica DiBiase: Always thinking something technical. Yeah, I can't do blank. Yeah, I'm thinking, like, you have to get to 3 more reps like, drop your elbow. Yeah, I'm 100 have to give myself. I've tried to go blank. I've tried, and that that does not work for me. I then I would want to put the bell down. Then I feel like this dark like I'm like, I'm in this. I'm in a hole. I need to keep myself focused on something. So that's been the way to do it for me. 302 00:47:14.250 --> 00:47:23.949 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Okay? And what are what are your? What are your? I don't wanna call them swing thoughts, but like, what are what are the what are the queues that you that do? You have different ones on the way up and on the way down, or like how. 303 00:47:23.950 --> 00:47:24.280 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah. 304 00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:26.250 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: How do you? How do you go about queuing. 305 00:47:26.600 --> 00:47:45.110 Jessica DiBiase: I love this, I love this. This is so, this is so cool. I never! No one ever asked me these questions, but they're the things that kettle athletes think about all the time. Definitely on the drop I'm always always focused on, because I still tend to bring my elbow away from me. So that's a problem. So I'm always thinking about. Drop your shoulder. You know what I mean, and bring your elbow down. 306 00:47:45.110 --> 00:47:45.640 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Let's. 307 00:47:45.640 --> 00:48:12.670 Jessica DiBiase: And then Lauren and I have been working perpetually on just breath work, you know. So now I like time it. There's an excel there, there's an excel here, there's 2 at the top. So that's I try to really like. Remember that and stay in sync with that, because once you kind of if, if, like all of a sudden, you get 2 reps out, you got to kind of bring it back again, and you don't want to be too far back off your number, because ultimately this is a sport about numbers. So there are days where I'm just. I'm just doing it for time and get. 308 00:48:12.670 --> 00:48:14.469 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Volume. Manager. Yeah. Yeah. 309 00:48:14.470 --> 00:48:28.660 Jessica DiBiase: But when I'm not, then I I don't really. I have to be pretty strategic. So on the drop. That's what I'm thinking about, and then I'm always trying to push with the other leg on my way through, right if I'm holding in my right hand and I'm pushing, I really want to like. Use that opposing leg 310 00:48:29.904 --> 00:48:31.120 Jessica DiBiase: and leg, you know. 311 00:48:31.120 --> 00:48:35.849 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: You have a cross, you have a cross by a crossbody diagonal pathing on on the way. On the way. 312 00:48:35.850 --> 00:48:36.979 Jessica DiBiase: I do. Yeah. 313 00:48:36.980 --> 00:48:38.529 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Different than some people will do it more 314 00:48:38.990 --> 00:48:40.830 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: forward like Dennis Vasillia doesn't. How much. 315 00:48:40.830 --> 00:48:42.699 Jessica DiBiase: Sure. Sure. Yep, yes. 316 00:48:42.810 --> 00:48:55.900 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Kind of style. Why the elbow? Why do you focus on keeping the elbow close like I? I know the answer to this, but I want you to tell our tell our dear listeners like, why is it important to to keep the elbow close to the body on the drop on snatch. Why does that. 317 00:48:55.900 --> 00:49:22.470 Jessica DiBiase: Because you're you're constantly in your the whole. You know so much of the sport is out grip preservation. So you you've got to be able to like. Keep your your hand and your grip loose and blood pumping, and you just you can't get that kind of like dinosaur thing happening, you know, like you can't hold on anymore. So I am just trying. And I'm also just trying to utilize. Don't get me wrong, folks. You are clearly using your upper body when you are lifting kettlebells. 318 00:49:22.470 --> 00:49:34.150 Jessica DiBiase: But I always say that that's like 30% of the workout. You know, the training, really, the real meat potatoes of the training happen with your core and your lower half. So by bringing the elbow in it just allows me to like 319 00:49:34.150 --> 00:49:49.490 Jessica DiBiase: almost you. I can almost cradle. My, you know I can use more core. I can use more leg. It's not away from me, so I'm not leaking energy in the same way, right? If it's closer, there's just less energy leak, more grip, preservation, more, you know, accountability to my core and my legs. 320 00:49:49.690 --> 00:49:52.160 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Yeah, it shortens shortens the path on the way down. So it does. 321 00:49:52.160 --> 00:49:52.880 Jessica DiBiase: You know that. 322 00:49:52.880 --> 00:50:05.320 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Doesn't pick up, pick up as much momentum which allows you to preserve grip and allows you to get the load into the core and the legs, which is what you want. The load felt right, especially on that backside opposing leg, with your with your style. 323 00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:14.530 Jessica DiBiase: That's right. Yeah. You know that this is so good. Can we like do? Can we like meet like every week or something, and have like a little chat. Please tell me this is not the last time we get to speak. 324 00:50:14.530 --> 00:50:20.679 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Oh, definitely, definitely, not definitely, not. We're definitely, we're definitely, we're definitely gonna connect more. There's there's no doubt. 325 00:50:20.680 --> 00:50:24.320 Jessica DiBiase: Okay, good. This is really good. I really appreciate you. 326 00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:29.519 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: What role I appreciate you, too. Thank you. Like the I couldn't tell, like I'm glad we finally were able to make this. 327 00:50:29.520 --> 00:50:32.190 Jessica DiBiase: Me, too, I mean, this took a minute, but it was worth every every. 328 00:50:32.190 --> 00:50:33.700 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: We've been trying glad you're patient. 329 00:50:33.700 --> 00:50:35.630 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Well, we both got kids. We're both. 330 00:50:35.630 --> 00:50:38.439 Jessica DiBiase: And now I'll never leave you. Now we're just gonna be together forever. 331 00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:40.959 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: That's awesome. I'm I'm good with that. I'm good with that. 332 00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:41.873 Jessica DiBiase: Thank you. 333 00:50:42.330 --> 00:50:52.160 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: How does how does recovery and injury prevention play a role for you both as an athlete and as a coach like how do you. How do you manage that? Because you've talked a lot about musculoskeletal health and taking care of your body. 334 00:50:52.160 --> 00:50:52.670 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah. 335 00:50:52.670 --> 00:50:55.010 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: How does that play in in your philosophy? 336 00:50:55.200 --> 00:51:23.559 Jessica DiBiase: Nutrition, you know. I think more focus on that which is just an ever like a constant conversation. I'm lucky enough to have great colleagues in this field, and we talk a lot and work together at this. But you know I'm not going to sit here and say you've got to have this amount of grams, and then this. But me personally, I'm trying to be a lot more cognizant about the amount of protein that I ingest. You know how much I'm drinking every day, you know electrolytes. 337 00:51:23.560 --> 00:51:24.070 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Not a morning. 338 00:51:24.070 --> 00:51:42.380 Jessica DiBiase: Vitamins. You know what I mean. Yeah. Fortunately, I'm not addicted to that chocolate. I do but you know, just I think, just paying a little bit more attention to like what's actually going into my body, because I think that helps sleep. Of course, I have a terrible habit of falling asleep on the couch every night. So I'm working on that, you know, like little things like uninterrupted sleep. 339 00:51:42.718 --> 00:51:53.881 Jessica DiBiase: These things are not basic to me. They're pretty darn hard to do. So I'm you know. I'm working on them, but I think they play a huge role in recovery. Fascia work 340 00:51:54.250 --> 00:52:12.899 Jessica DiBiase: lowering your cortisol talking to people more picking up the phone like this stuff actually is really helpful doing what we're doing here. Making time, that we, you know. I I believe that to to heal is to connect. So you know, I can't tell you how many messages I just leave, but I'm just thinking about you. It doesn't matter if they never pick up. But at least that's right. 341 00:52:12.900 --> 00:52:14.560 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: I love that that makes me. 342 00:52:14.560 --> 00:52:15.010 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah. 343 00:52:16.300 --> 00:52:32.389 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: I've actually heard from from. The addiction. Space, like connection, is the opposite of addiction, right? Like like that, like addiction, is isolation and loneliness and and connection is the antidote like that is the one that is one thing that I've that I've heard, and I and I and I love that it's. 344 00:52:32.390 --> 00:52:32.940 Jessica DiBiase: Yep. 345 00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:52.129 Jessica DiBiase: Oh, there's my yep, I'm on borrowed time now, because now I've got kids that are reaching for me. But yes, I would say that those are my, that's my, you know those are kind of the things that I hold near and dear. And you asked early on. So Tupac would come when I'm getting hyped up before my training set during my set. 346 00:52:52.130 --> 00:53:19.120 Jessica DiBiase: And then I just listened to a lot of James Taylor. My 8 year old tonight was asking me she had to do an interview for gratitude. Because this is this time of year. That's a big practice for me, too. By the way, Jordan, as I do. I'll ask you tonight what you're grateful for before we get off here. But I do that every time I'm done with any training. Always ask what you're grateful for. But my daughter interviewed me, and she asked me what I was grateful for, and I said, You know I'm grateful for the music of James Taylor, and she said, Why are you grateful for the music of James Taylor? And I said, You know. 347 00:53:19.130 --> 00:53:27.499 Jessica DiBiase: because I I lost my dad unexpectedly a few years ago, and it's been a just a huge hole in my heart. He was like my best friend. 348 00:53:27.520 --> 00:53:46.690 Jessica DiBiase: and he, james Taylor was a huge thing for us like his. That's how I thought about my dad. And so now it's been this most cathartic way to bring him in when I'm missing him the most, and I love it, and and it's still it's it's on all the time, and it's still the way I I process emotion and feeling, but I also 349 00:53:46.690 --> 00:54:01.910 Jessica DiBiase: really believe that you know I'm an effusive person. So you should tell somebody you're thinking about them when you're thinking about them, and I think it's really healing and helpful. But I would say, insert James Taylor. Now this is what I put him on to focus when I go on the platform. James Taylor is when I'm having conversations with you. 350 00:54:02.080 --> 00:54:10.450 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: I love it. I love it. Yeah, that's I mean, well, like that, James Taylor, after you're done lifting like parasympathetic activation. If we're gonna go totally nerdy about it right? It's like. 351 00:54:10.450 --> 00:54:21.570 Jessica DiBiase: Jordan. We are like best friends. Oh, my God, we I I've got to go because I've got I've got my kids. But can I ask you what you're grateful for tonight? Can I end our our conversation together with what you're grateful for? 352 00:54:21.570 --> 00:54:23.483 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Oh, yeah, absolutely absolutely. 353 00:54:24.560 --> 00:54:51.529 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: I am always grateful for for wonderful conversations with people like you. I am grateful that we're able to make this time together. And I'm I'm grateful for hockey in Minnesota. I'm grateful for there are so many things in my life, but like I'm grateful for hockey. I'm grateful that my! I'm grateful to watch my daughter like flourish into into this little badass athlete that she's kind of turning into, and it's super fun to see and to get to be part of that journey, and coach her on some of those things, and take 354 00:54:51.530 --> 00:55:08.149 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: some of the lessons I've learned from Kettlebell sport, and that I've learned from coaching and being able to try and apply it as lovingly as I can with my daughter, dialing back my intensity a little bit. But you know I'm doing. Yeah, that's those are the things that I'm that I'm really grateful for. How about you? What are you grateful. 355 00:55:08.150 --> 00:55:13.339 Jessica DiBiase: I'm a hundred percent, a hundred 10% grateful for this moment. 356 00:55:13.420 --> 00:55:42.479 Jessica DiBiase: this conversation. And just just having this this chat with you tonight, you know, and I really am. I mean that I have all these things I'm thinking about for our next talk already. So I'm happy that this kind of sparked and kind of opened up a a whole world, you know, for us, one that we've we've had all this time together. And now we have all this new time together, but I really am grateful for you. I love your spirit, and I appreciate you like taking the time to connect with me tonight. I really do so. I'm I'm definitely grateful for that. 357 00:55:42.803 --> 00:55:43.450 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: I feel. 358 00:55:43.450 --> 00:55:49.700 Jessica DiBiase: And Tupac and James Taylor, and hockey, and and all the things, all the things. 359 00:55:49.700 --> 00:55:50.200 Jessica DiBiase: Yeah. 360 00:55:50.200 --> 00:56:10.089 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: All the things can I ask you, can I ask you one more? Can I ask you one more? Okay, this is. And this is one that's always the the closer for me is if you could go back and give and and give somebody that's brand new on their Kettlebell sport journey, one piece of advice as a as a beginner, a brand new person. What would that one piece of advice be that you would give to a brand new person. 361 00:56:10.300 --> 00:56:26.269 Jessica DiBiase: Don't get frustrated. You know what I mean like. It's I would say, the hardest barrier to entry when you're new is just oh, my God! I would laugh! I became a world champion. It took me like 3 months to get the effing swing. I just couldn't get that rocking motion, so don't get frustrated. Be patient. 362 00:56:26.270 --> 00:56:55.130 Jessica DiBiase: stick it through. You know what I mean, even when you just want to like oh, like you know, get rid of like. Throw the Kettlebell down, just keep doing it. Stay with it. Do not give up like, just be patient, don't get too frustrated, because this is the hardest it will ever be, you know it'll be the the basics will get less basicy, you know. They'll become more fluid, and when they do you will open yourself up to a whole freaking world of of a sport you never even knew that existed quite frankly, a lifestyle. You never even knew that existed. So it is worth it. 363 00:56:55.680 --> 00:57:00.279 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Love it. Well, Jeff, thank you so much. I know you gotta go. You've got. You've got kids. You've got demands. 364 00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:04.680 Jessica DiBiase: Sorry they're being pills tonight. They're a pain in my butt like you wouldn't get it. Do this 365 00:57:04.680 --> 00:57:09.070 Jessica DiBiase: living. And they're like like tonight. Really, you gotta anyways welcome to life. 366 00:57:09.070 --> 00:57:10.490 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Right? So, yeah, we. 367 00:57:10.490 --> 00:57:13.929 Jessica DiBiase: But again, this is like the first, st I hope, of many more conversations together. 368 00:57:13.930 --> 00:57:19.129 Twin Cities Kettlebell Club: Yeah, thank you so much. I really appreciate the time, and we will talk. We will talk again soon. Thank you. Jess. Have a great night. 369 00:57:19.600 --> 00:57:20.470 Jessica DiBiase: Hi. Jordan.