David Keohan | St. Paddy's Day Special Episode

Welcome to the platform podcast where we talk to coaches athletes experts and real people to learn about their approaches to training nutrition mindset and much more I'm your host Jordan Kunde-Wright founder and head coach of the Twin Cities kettlebell club And I'm on a mission to help others build sustainable healthy lifestyles My guest this week is our first return guest David Kyoin from kettlebell yoga And this is a bit of a special episode This is honestly just me and my friend David catching up and having a couple of points to celebrate St. Patrick's Day I am of Irish Heritage and he obviously is from Ireland And I reached out to him a little bit ahead of time and said hey I've got a holiday on Monday from work So maybe we can get together and have an early St. Patrick's Day celebration and release the episode on St. Patrick's Day So we actually ended up chatting for about two hours about kettlebells and politics and quarantine and lifting stones and the connections to ancient cultures and so many fun things And I did intentionally break this episode into like two chunks so there will be an interlude in the middle of this It is a two hour episode but I will break it up so that you have a benchmark you know about 45 minutes and you can stop and come back to it later But I really hope you enjoyed the conversation as much as I enjoyed having it I want to take a second to say that I'm grateful that you come and listen to this podcast And if you haven't already, please be sure to leave a rating and review of the platform podcast in your app of choice And support my work by supporting our sponsors whose affiliate links you will find in the episode notes And if you want to get onto the platform and competing kettlebell sport, please reach out to me I help athletes of all levels reach their goals without wasting time using my integrated online coaching approach You can follow me on Instagram, Facebook and YouTube at twincities kettlebell club or email me at twincities kettlebellclub at gmail.com Now let's step on to the platform for a special St. Patrick's Day edition with David Killing I said, how's it all your names? How's it all over on all good? Life is mostly good here, brother, mostly good. How about you? Yeah, yeah, I suppose it could be a lot worse for them just getting sick, I get locked down, man, you know what I mean? I'm like a fucking cave's down over here, so I am. While you look like you're getting bigger and bigger, you're ready to bust out of your cage, it looks like in your shirt. Oh man, yeah, I'm letting put it down a bit away and I'll write for them. On the good way, you know, on the good way, I'm up, I'm up to 93 kilos now, but I wouldn't be kind of overly heavy across the middle So I don't put it on the right way in my back for shoulders, just lifting rocks. Yeah, I think you do. Lift his stones for 12 months. It's amazing what it'll do for you. Still picking up the wife's sculpture in the backyard. I got a horse car just didn't go on yet, but I moved up. I was getting to the stage and it were friends of mine that started to donate rocks to me. I found this really cool rock day. I dug up a massive fucking pole around me. Would you be interested? Okay, so I go down and have a look. And I pick it up and I'm like, okay, that's heavy. I'll take that one. So I'm getting four calls every two or three weeks. I'm going with rocks. I just want to get broken. That's funny. That is, that is awesome. I get it. I just get that. Yeah, I found the right. Oh, called David. Oh, yeah. What you think when you see a big fucking boulder in your garden. Go David, quick. He'll take it. What are we going to do with it? What are we going to do with this thing? Oh, called David. He'll take it. Hey. Sancho, mate. Thank you. Thank you for joining me for an early St. Patrick's Day celebration. I can't tell you how much. Yeah. How much it excites me. I am. It's all awesome. I'm mostly Irish on my on my one side of the family. So on the on the right. Fantastic. The right side of the family. Although we're not as Irish as we thought. My parents went to Dublin for their 25th wedding anniversary. And it happened to me. And they actually were there on St. Patrick's Day. They landed on St. Patrick's Day. It was. Oh, God. I can't remember what year it was. I should know because I should know when my parent will make what your My parents got married. But whatever. Yeah. They. It also happened to be the day after the Irish national team had won the Seven Nations Rugby Championship. Oh, man. Yeah. So. That would be a wider day. Alright. Dublin was a shit show. Yeah. That's a miss. I mean, that's people taking two or three days straight. Yeah. Now we're going to get about 4,000 hours of sleep in the middle. Yeah. They. So my. My dad and my dad and mom wandered about the Irish countryside. And they were, you know, tracing some of the, some of the lineage. And come to fight, come to find out there were a bit more forks into the family tree than we thought. So we're, you know, Irish and Welsh and some English in there not surprisingly. We know how that happened. You know, some. Some other. You know, some other divergences in the family tree that we weren't quite aware of. So I guess I'm, I guess I'm kind of a UK mix mix mix mix and not wrong with that from the home countries. I Then there's German on my German on my mom's side. So, you know, I'm I'm your I'm your stereotypical American, you know, Euro mutt You know, just a just a bit just a bit of just a bit of everything. So No, you got the Guinness, I look, man, if you're a Guinness, then I got a four again as well. Yeah, yeah, it's I mean My my Would be a party to see whatever Guinness in it. Right? Yeah, see I get the we get the the same the same thing. So Get it into you now. We can go for this all day. I'm because What you sportly today. So I was on sparring mode cooking dinners and breakfasts and nice and all the rest of it. And she gave you she gave you permission to come have come have a pint with your mate. I love that. That's very gracious On her on her birthday. That's that's very She's on the per se, or she's happy in options in the living room. So she shouldn't know why I was going to TV I Cheers I had I had told you I was gonna get I was gonna get the Jameson, but I gotta I gotta show you I called an audible because I'm Not that smart and I get distracted by I get distracted by shiny objects. So I got I ended up with this This tealing this tealings small small batch Irish whiskey because it That sounds nice the gold button a bit of water for tears as well. Oh nice Yeah, I'll be talking internet later on the gold thing the gold thing caught my attention and I was like, oh that looks shiny And then and then I and then I looked at it and I was like, oh, it's rum-cask finished. I like rum-cask finished whiskeys. So Very nice. I never had a rom-cask finish. I was full for the sherry ones. Yeah, the one tell me what it's like. The rum gives it a nice a nice kind of sugary finish at the end So if it's a you know, if it's a smooth kind of spicy mash and then you get that that sweetness at the end of it It gives it kind of a nice a nice balance. So, but I know I've never I've never had this one I'm I'm speaking from my experience drinking American rye whiskeys that are then finished in in rum-cask So, well, we'll crack that one in a in a bit. Give it a large give it a crack and see if there's like So come here and how is training going? It's good mate. It's good. I'm I'm back to doing the team is the team is doing triathlon training now. So I'm testing a I'm testing a hypothesis Which is which is essentially this We can train we can train triathlon as a as a means of specific kettlebell sport preparation and that it will keep my team generally well prepared and skillful in all three lifts and then about eight to 12 weeks out from any specific competition date I can talk to any one of my athletes and say what do you want to compete in at this upcoming competition and from there I give them a specific preparation plan for that competition and they can dial in and prepare for whatever lift They want to compete in at that at that competition and do well whether it's long cycle byathlon or triathlon and and they're physically prepared to do so But we we decreased the risk of Pattern overload and we decreased the risk of overuse injury because we're training all three movements So we do two days a week of biathlon training where we're doing jerk and jerk and jerk and snatch and then that gives us a pretty high training volume overall And then one day a week we do long cycle and clean work, you know, so that we're so we're still so we're still training long cycle And we do drills to keep our cleansed crispy and snappy and, you know, generally That's a perfect that sounds great, you know, I mean it's then like I said, you're you're You're doing all three lifts. So you're keeping your hand in all three lifts that they say you got all the arms into fire So you're keeping yourself kind of greasing the groove there and then you're kind of specifying it's a head towards a comp So that sounds good to me It's that was the team. How's everybody's everybody's lifting going? It's going well They the about about half of the team competed at the at the cally open And And everybody made rank So that's so that was great They all they all did really well. I was super super proud of everybody A couple a couple of people it was their first competitions My my girl my girl Anora Anora O'Connor So, you know, St. Patrick stay shout out to Anora. She that's it. Yeah, that's an oyster. She's very Irish and they they love Ireland So she did really well for her first competition She finished a 10-minute set in both long cycle and in snatch and made rank two in both lifts in her first inner first Yeah, she should be very brilliant. Yeah, she did she did really really well. And then my buddy my buddy Emron Who whom I've known for for a long time. He's one of my best friends. He's also an athlete of mine He did his first competition and you'll you'll love this you would love this guy because he he came into it Wanting he wanted to get he wanted to get rank one in long cycle Which I told I told him That's a really aggressive goal for your first competition But in training He could consistently hit 10 to 12 rpm's on long cycle and and even when we were getting up to six and seven minute sets He was still able to to sustain that and so on on competition day, you know, we were talking about strategy And I was like what do you want to do for strategy? And he's like I want to go for rank one And so I'm like okay, that means you need to hit a hundred that means you need to hit 10 rpm's the entire 10 minutes So the plan was come out at eight for the first two minutes go up to 10 check in at halftime and then go up to 12 After halftime to see if he could Then finish and hit a hundred that was that was the plan And and I told him it's an aggressive plan and he But that's what he want and he's he's an aggressive guy. He's very ambitious He sets aggressive goals and he's like and he works really hard and he's super intense And especially especially in training And so we're going through we're going through the set and he's first two minutes He's at eight and he's he's looking pretty he's looking pretty good And I'm like all right two minutes. Where do you want to go? It's like 10 so we go up to 10 and he gets he holds 10 to Through the first five minutes and I'm like all right checking at halftime. What do you want to do 10? So he wants to stay at 10. I'm like okay cool So we stay we stay at 10 and he's gone. He's going. He's going. He's going And then I'm I'm telling him okay. I can see he's struggling. You know, it's minute seven You know, I'm telling his forms getting a little forms getting a little he's getting pumped up in his shoulders Elbows are getting a little wide, you know things that happen. It's especially in your first competition. I'm like all right Let's slow it down. I'm you know, I'm trying to I'm trying to cook and he got to like nine at nine minutes and 30 seconds he goes for a jerk and He locks it out with his right arm, but his left tricep just can't lock it so he so he drops it and he comes down any any any He goes outside of his frame and this is the second time that he's gone out of his rack outside of his frame And he didn't know that he couldn't he that he couldn't do that for you know, so I was like you know, he didn't know he couldn't do that That's that's on me for for not getting him fully up to speed on the rules, but the funny thing was is it were We're at nine nine minutes and 40 seconds and he has literally gotten every single rep he can out of his body And I'm like put him down. You're you're done. You can't go back up and he's like no, I got to finish the time I'm like no, they won't count anyways. I'm like just put him down. He's like no, no, I don't want to buy him So like he's literally like he can barely breathe he can't lock out another rep But he's fighting with me from the platform Because because he wants to finish the time and he's such a such a fucking warrior like I love like I loved it It was so funny, but it's like it's like I'll tell you what what I was told back then I mean if that's a warrior that's someone you want energy, you know what I mean He can he go far and sportly monster because what you need is you need that for the spirit. Don't you need that will to win And you need a great tenacious to finish the state And I was told memorizing my force it when I really fucking died under 24's And look your technique was from the will was made technique we call and you improve That's what you need in this force of here for complete. Yeah, yeah, it was yeah, it was it was great Like and I told it like it was it was funny because at the time, you know, it's just too, you know Where I'm trying to protect him so I'm like put the fucking weights down, you know Because I'm like you're done, you know, he's like no So we're like fighting fighting with each other, but whether or not he should stop, you know, and then of course So he got so he got he got I think he got ranked three. I think it was like said I think he got like 74 or 76. I don't remember the official number But still a first first competition, you know first first competition is still a really good output and a really really good job And he was Pissed Oh For a good for a good 5-10 minutes after his study was so mad because he felt like he quit He felt like he felt like he could have done more and I'm like like dude I like I love it. I love the fighting spirit. I love the competitive nature But like you're like you you put out a great effort, you know, like what else can I have for me? That's that's incredible What was he lifting was the 20s? No, 16s For the 16s. Yeah, yeah, so it's like for your for your first set for your first set ever like That's that's fantastic Yeah, you're not only to to last like The all was the 10 minutes and to have the will to keep going that's for it. It's a football player to keep on Yeah, it was yeah, it was it was great. Oh, he's yeah, he's he's not quitting. He's he's he's on it Like he's actually come he's actually coming by tonight since he lives here in the Twin Cities We're gonna open up the garage door and you know do some socially distant some dose socially distant training While we while we do the team the team practice tonight. So he's gonna come train in my garage Assuming we don't get too much snow. We're supposed to get some train within That makes some difference. You know what I mean? That's not missing missing just The social end of this whole thing, you know, because Like so we're we're in a five K. It means like, you know, we can't go outside of five K radius your house So I mean, we're really short away from from everybody. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's been that way like since since December of 26. So it's it's a long time already, you know, and You have a nasty a nasty variant going on right like the the UK variant is like super super contagious Yeah, it's very contagious, you know, so um There's lots of fear, but there's also people getting like really annoyed and like, you know The social and I suppose mental health aspect that is is going to be big over here because I mean But literally not seeing anybody, you know from one end of the day to the next except your family I'm lucky that I'm in more. I mean, it hasn't affected me at all some people don't even like their families That happens a lot I mean, I was only saying that what you've done last week said we're looking be get on somewhere You know what I mean? Yeah, especially about the evidence about it We're like, yeah, I don't even like you anymore. I'm sick of your fucking face. I want to see somebody else That's it Actually get on really when that's great. So imagine if you fucking didn't Which you know, I mean we have a way to get through this I went to bike lifts and rocks and they can absolutely show you the bike garden and she's like book that's grand, you know If that's what it takes to get you through man, you go out you fucking take a moment out there as long as the fucking face to come this spring That's fair But yeah, look it's it's it's it's it's been a it's been a rough few months But I mean the hope it is looking at a total, you know, it seems yeah lots of different companies coming out with vaccines And we'd be able to sell this whole for the end of the year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because you miss a miss comes I miss me, you know, you got lots of plans and things you want to do and we'll be on board at the minute How's how's your training going a size from a size from you know people dropping off boulders and being like hey David can you lift this one? How's your how's your kettlebell training going? And And kettlebell training I what I've done is like I said I've been training mainly Strength and mobility this last almost 12 months now and kettlebell sport training is taking a back seat And I'm still training kettlebells towards a week but not specifically for kettlebell sport And I'm just like today I was on two twenty eights and just in long-circle for conditioning But I'm not with any like sports are our goal in mind just to just as a great addition to us with on 10 minutes And minute on and off with the twenty eights long-circle at 10 RPM I thought you're I thought you were telling me you just you just did 10 minutes just for font like like 10 minutes nonstop with the twenty eights I thought that's what you were telling me and I was To be like you're fucking in 10 minutes of one minute on one minute off makes more sense that makes more sense It's a lot more sick because I mean like I said I haven't been specifically trained at the sport so I'm It's it's I'm still having great fun with the kettlebells though, you know sense I'm working More like mobility stuff I'm detecting the windmills Do like that Russian kind of circuit strongman stuff with the two kettlebells And over eight squats and putting great great fun with them lately and with the two twenty eights and a forty two and just Just working on my thoracic mobility and my hip mobility and And great form of the kettlebells, but I'm really I'm really into lifting the songs and because what It's just something that's kind of taken a hold of me already these last red months and I'm the kind of horse in that I need to really enjoy my training. I need to really enjoy it and look forward I want to look forward to more is I can't wait to throw the back and get covered more because the weather here is showing I mean it rains here 300 days of open year like so I mean I'm out the back in the mud in the rain in the dark And I'm lifting the stones and that's what I want to do So that's what I mean doing this and I'm loving it and just like I said my my main goal there was to go Scotland as soon as COVID-19 kind of fucks off and go lift the manual stones And that's that's what my that's my next goal that I have So I'm that's what I want to do next year and I'm really Tell me tell me about tell me about those stones because I'm not I don't know I don't know the the mythology behind the the stones I'm not listening to some great stories and what I love about it is is that it's like you're It's your part of history. You're doing something that people have been doing to be lifted these specific rocks I mean it could be like I can maybe 14 to 16 at the moment there and they're just like rocks in a field And anybody has they're just stones. They're just rocks in a field and you just drive past where you walk that What if you know the history behind them and you know Why people have lifted up and how long they've been lifted up It's it's awesome. You know, it's one called a fear the storm which is like I'm The theme is the old Celtic warriors, you know back in the leases hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years You know, and the fear the storm was something that you had to lift the chest height And if you lifted the chest height you're one of three Trails of man order to get into the theme yet the lift the storm is about 120 kgs up to the chest height You had to jump the length of your kids who to think for them and you had to run At neckhoids with a sword headed straight out and not breaks right and wrong and lead it and they were the three trailers to To become a fear to become a warrior and people have been lifting this specific storm for thousands of years You know what I mean? I mean thousands of you You know, and it's just the storm and feel I'm like It's in this beautiful Scottish countryside. You're looking out over the highlands and you're picking up this storm You're like There must have been tens of thousands of men have lifted this storm. You know, this is a parody history And that's what I'm fascinated about, you know, yeah, it's like the ones in and the ones in Iceland are the same like the The half-strapped. I think I was telling you about that the last time, you know, you had three different stones One was and it was all about your your rank and the Viking borscht You know, so if you were lifted this storm, you got a half a share of the spoilers If you lifted this storm, you got a full share It was like half strong a full strong just half sterber and full sterber The full sterker someone's 150 kg into half one is 100 kg So your half-strained beginning to 100 and you're full strong, you can lift one 50 That's how your work was dealt in the in the Viking times You know what I mean? You're strong enough to lift this whole thing and that's what that's what you got your money I'm like they're still there and then that's the Viking age. They're fucking still there at the same place You know, so you can go over and test your strength and again like people have been lifting this thing for thousands of years It's like it's it's amazing. It's got this boy to it You know, it's the the the the interconnected chain of humanity It's the it's with the it's with the the Maori the Maori tribe calls it the the fuck about right? That's where the walk about come the the term comes from and it's the it's that we are all we are all an interconnected chain To our ancestors of the past and the ancestors of our future And we this is just our time in the sun and and our time in the sun is limited But that but the chain is unbroken and like it's one of those things that like There's one of those things that tight like it it like it's a visceral very visceral Physical symbol of that chain of connectivity of humanity, right? It's like like you know for for someone from from the old country Right like you're like fuck. I might I might be lifting the same stone that my great great great great great great great great great great grandfather lifted You know back in the 1500 you know like that gives me goose bumps right now Just just saying that out loud like it gives me goose bumps like to think about that because like It's a as an American. It's a hard thing for me to like wrap my head around because our country's only a couple hundred years old and like You know, you know, we're also Temporary in nature that we that we forget about like the the thousands of of eons that came before us But like when you see old things like that it kind of like I don't know. It's like the echoes of this, you know, like you know, like you know It's after just Just during this dispassion and so I mean like That's amazing, you know, and and just to to even hold a bit pick up that that stone and know that so many people I've actually had their hands on before and use this as a trial of strength To become you know to become a warrior. It's amazing. And it's like again I remember when we came back to kettlebells again I remember when I don't we've been doing looking at the wigs for Europeans on the 20th or 18th your green chapter crop And the Russians were using these these 32s and I was only starting off really only starting off from 16th and kettlebells at that stage But I helped bring like bring in the bells and bring them out again, and I remember the Russians watching some Russian guys they clung so they couldn't get them these these 32s And I was like Jesus Christ, you know, that's incredible because I mean you're you're standing off from 16s You only hear myths of people living in 42s and it was only two people learn we're lifting at that stage And you just see these guys making it look so easy It's like that's that's amazing, you know How that's just incredible and then like when you pick the kettlebells up after like You can always feel there's this there's just maybe there's something I'm getting from these guys and in these kettlebells people started to use like Oh, yeah, that guy would lift it in like you can always feel it in in the focus These guys were lifted these you know, this is awesome So no, I don't know what something maybe like that is always you might be around a little bit more But I mean, it's like you said it's that chain is that I'm the power and avoid you're getting off of something So that's what's what's taking more Boy, I'm fancy over the last last red monster. No, you're now you're kind of now you're kind of passing it on to me because now I'm like god Where can I get a rock like We're gonna get a hundred kilo rock. I want to get started. Oh, maybe I shouldn't start that heavy, but you know I mean, it's it's amazing training It's just because it's it's so Prima and it's so old I mean literally Back in the day, that's all you had, you know the old I mean, it's got to be the oldest form of training there is right like we're going back I mean back to crow magnet man, right like picked up rock all the way back I mean, you go back as far as you can and that's what we had, you know what I mean And the feeling of just you know, it's it's so different than lift and environment. You know, it's so different Lift and gentlemen. It's just it's so different because oh, yeah, it's yeah, it's you know, it's about to be lifted Like they're made to be lifted. Yeah, they're happy being lifted, but I mean stones are quite happy already our times You don't lift me up. I push you down That's that's the thing with what's like and I've done atlas stones right the strongman stones right but you know Even those even those are like those are at least shaped to be lifted right there They're like you know, I mean, they're not they're they're they're intentionally a pain in the ass to be lifted But you know, they're they're but they're at least like round they're uniform You know like so like when you pick them up, you can get a grip on them. You can roll them up onto your knees and like I think for people that have never for people that have never lifted a heavy fucking stone Like there's something about it that's so uniquely challenging because it's it's not just physical strength It's also like the awkwardness of it figuring out the the the levers of it and where to position different parts of your body and then like Like and this is just me talking about lifting atlas stones. You don't learn that natural like a natural stone Like but like just figuring out like and then being able to roll it up onto your body and like there's there's actually a requisite level of mobility to it too That I think I haven't done an atlas stone in Fuck ten years like because I don't I don't know if I could like get into the deep squat position necessary to like roll a stone up onto your quads You know like because if it's if it's a big stone like you better be in a deep squat because then you don't have to lift it as far And you can roll it up onto your quads and then you can go from there and then you know Hopefully can bear hug it and stand up with it far enough to put it up onto the stand, you know, but like Exactly exactly and that's the hit the nail on the head because it's then First of all every stone has a way it wants to be lifted And like I said, you have to find out where the uh the actual weight displacement is in the stone You have to find what part of it that you can grip especially but like I'm lifting just all the field stones and um, you know, a stone box that goes or a drop and down, you know what I mean and the heaviest one I have is It's still it still makes me laugh that your friends are just dropping by like I found a fucking boulder for you David here you go Can you just throw it up on the energy I'll get a knock on the door The day of the day or yeah, where they'll have a rock for you. Fuck it normally sure He dropped me a rock. That's how I know you're my friend. You brought me a rock And it's like this thing's fucking on me. Oh my christmas. It's gonna be better The cool good I have at my wife is like, oh, it's not our fault in the stone The backyard is fucking destroyed Oh, so could you hear our forecast then rugs? Well, I'm not having the time me live either, man. I'm loving it Oh, that's what I'm like I said, it's the weight displacement stays to pick it up So I mean everyone has a has a way you want to be lifted So you got to find it the proper way and then you got to be able to have to strain to get that thing up your lap And then I have to strain do you have to do like an unbalanced yeah, like we're like one foot further forward than the other Just because of the shape of the rock or because of the like the Generally um No, I generally I get a good base. So I can say you got to have a good morbidity You gotta be able to get down to the ground to get under meets. I mean, it's not like about like I tell it for you like yeah After a while you're right down at the grass level. So you got to be able to get under it Boyle still maintaining it reasonably straight back because like you don't want to have a big curve across your back When you're lifting something that heavy. Yeah, so you got to have a really good like you pull a decent level of building your hips And then have the strength to be able to pull through like a cereal chain to get that thing off To lap level and then just go out there and wrap your hands around it and how big the stone is like one of my habits weekly boy So you're literally like just about getting your fingers around it And I got I got lost and you could then you got to have the strength in your back to be able to stand open And then you got to straighten your legs going to get up the shoulder you have to straighten your legs Jerker open to your your shoulder legs. I mean it's it's serious pull body training You know have you have you lost anywhere like you had to get your feet out of the way real quick or you were going to crush a toe or something So sometimes Especially because I mean the back yard and as it is literally a fork and swamp and it's raining all the time And I'm lifting in the mode, you know, so I mean it's not as if I'm in a gym lifting on a on a rubber mat I'm out in the rain, you know, lifting in the mode, so I mean there is times you have a little bit of a slip When you just got to you got to be careful like but thankfully so far and I've been okay But I mean again when I'm going to over to Scotland or or on the Icelandic these places are They're just as bad weather wise as here, so you're going to be going to the place that's going to be pacing rain The ground is going to be on sound You're not going to a gym to lift you're going to open the field like so I suppose it's good for you to look at you look at all the Viking cultures Right and you know like people don't realize they're Irish Vikings There were you know, there are a lot of gala Vikings as well, right But you look at all the Viking cultures and the one thing they all had in common is they all came from places with shitty weather Where people are like yeah, I'm gonna get in the boat and get the fuck out of here and I'm gonna show up in a pissed off mood Whenever I get where I'm going I'm I'm gonna show up pissed off because I've been getting hammered by rain and snow and wind and Whatever and I haven't seen the sun and you know, you know three months It's no wonder they were just like I'm gonna go fuck it. Yeah, they're on it was in right It's so fucking rainy here. I mean it's been raining here since January. I think we've had two days of song Seen's January and I mean it's dark like it's getting dark before the clock and eat it Yeah, I mean training has to be brutal maybe That is brutal but you Mentally, yes, I mean I'm gonna bother these fools and I know you know people are just saying me all my friends have worked They just think I've lost the plot at this station You know, you know, you're fucking mental, you know, you're out in the rain and they're just seeing that it's pissing rain and I'm out Lift and rocks in the mood. You're fucking mad It's pitch dark. It's where your covered made to go in mode I'm like, yeah, I've never felt so happy They're not wrong. I love you, but they're not wrong Yeah, it might be a little mental Yeah, there's something there's something definitely definitely missing some part of the family. I blame them is far running Certainly it's certainly genetic Oh But it's just been grateful and I think it's it's kept me going mentally because like I said it does rain that much And it has been miserable So if I didn't have that I think I'd have gone for mentally because what I'm really really missing is Things that go into the beaches or because I mean they can I was brought up by the sea. I think we talked about this the last time Yeah, like if the sea isn't a lot of you know, I swim two or three times a week or you're alone Just get out of the water. I love to feel them And I can't go, you know, I can't there's no beach for them for you can't you know And I can't get out there and because like what happens if you just save What happens if you just say fuck it and go into the beach and you leave your 5k radius like what what happens then Look, I mean you go and there be a garbage roll there and they say where you're from they check your car that fine And if you do a few times in a row like it's it's it's court and jay, you know some lady is it worth it? I mean the fine is much we just 100 hundred weight like but instead of 100 weight, you know, yeah, it's not not It's not known, you know, and if I went two or three times a week, you know when you get caught two or three times in a row, sure Then you're getting into a prosecution kind of thing, you know what it means like Well, I case in mind, I feel like we look at the fucking mountains. I mean the mountains are 30 minutes from me The common mountains in water and he went even looked at the mountains on a Tuesday day You know, no one around And who is sitting up in the car park before you go for the walk up to the mountains on the agarica You know, and he's like Turn around and go home I'll find you. He's like just nobody else fucking here Like I'm literally here with you Up a mountain. What harm am I doing? I'm gonna walk up a mountain by myself and then come back down out doors Down doors, he said there's no one else fucking around. There's only the two Him and the carat and he's like a no man, you're out so you're 5k oh it's madness, you know Yeah, that doesn't that doesn't make any sense to me like I Love one bitch. I mean that's that's that's an eyed me since it's out there. It's like I won't defend I won't defend many of America's policies when it comes to When it comes to COVID action because we don't really have a leg to stand on as the world leader in infections You know, but yeah, you know, it's uh I will say that like the restrictions that some EU countries have done on just all activity regardless of context Doesn't make sense to me because like I would want I want you to go swimming I want you to get like I want you to go hike up a mountain and like yeah Like yes, stay away from people like stay a meter away from people if you can and like wear a mask If you're if you can't be more than a meter away But like yeah go climb your fucking mountain go for your swim go for your bike ride go for like Get out of your house and like before you before you kill someone because or yourself because you're too depressed, you know like I mean look that that's exactly it and that's what I never really got from the start of this Like I can be in work and I can deal with maybe 200 people a day working on my store because we're doing the only stores open Because we're a hardware um outlet so I can be in there talking literally face-to-face on the speed of every day But I can't cope a mountain myself, you know, or I can't go to the beach by myself at six in the morning, you know But um at this stage, I'm kind of starting to sneak out and do it anyway because um I've just kind of come to the end of the rover, you know Yeah, when it's out kind of analyzing the picture Then I'll make my job a sense. So I went out to the moron last week And it was like a cold bit more on the middle but 66 am and just get out in the beach and I was just this It was wonderful. It was absolutely Wonderful to do it, you know, it was really kind of like coming home, you know, yeah, so Yeah, man, that was great. So I really missed that Because like every Sunday morning my whole life that's what I'd be doing I mean get an open going to the go to the beach. I don't it's just a thing that I do At least once a week just that that noise field kind of maybe kind of a spiritual feeling as well Yeah, that's you know, you're there by yourself just you and nature. You make the sea bars. There's nobody on surround never I never be dying, but you're that error and you come home for a fresh to feel great You have to have no nice kind of a spiritual awakening and you had a bit of a swim near your body's kind of feeling great You know, you're coming over cold water and it's it's it's always been a star of the day. So That's what I've been really missing this last one. So I'm just trying to kind of just Fallen through it now. I think I just keep on going. I think the thing I think the thing I miss the most I'm all the sides from just regular interaction with my friends like face to face But I think the other thing the other thing I miss the most right now is I haven't been to a concert in it in over in over a year and like I was supposed to go see Chris Stapleton You know, I was like they're like they're you know, they're like you have like the you like oh god And like they were concert like my my buddy had tickets to go see rage against the machine They they had to cancel they had to cancel their tour and he was like He was so crushed because he like he'd been waiting his whole life to see rage against the machine live and they had to cancel You know, and I'm like oh god like I just want to go see a show and like at this point I'm like I don't care if I go like sit on a patio and listen to a shitty cover band Like I just want to hear live music and have a beer and hang out with my friends and like Listen to me. I mean, I'm so the exact same. I love love by music. I love playing it. I love listening to it And it's something again that I've always done since I was a kid You know since I'm 14 or 15 and playing live music So just even like to go to a pub game to go to listen to a cover's back Even that that'll do me a stage. You know Give me that. Give me a few drinks. You know sit in a sit in a corner somewhere. I'll be fucking happy I don't even want to do on a Facebook. I want to Facebook. You know, even that'll do me a visit Just just like God is to people fucking bit of low music Really fucking miss music. You know, I don't want to give a music because music has to be shared, doesn't it? I mean, I'm sitting at home playing a guitar here and it's grand, you know, and you're you're you're singing out a few songs and You know, you're more sharing on on Facebook or something but Music is meant to be played with other people, isn't it? And it's meant to be kind of this appreciated. Yeah, I mean, I'd I'd love to I'd love to like have you pick up the guitar and play something and I'll sing You know, but it's like you can't do it over zoom because it's you know You got two competing microphones and you've got the lag and you've got like You know, it's just one of those things. It's like it's an in-person thing and you can't like it is There's a feel so there's a feel to the song and like I can like when you're standing next to your guitar player You can see the you can see him speed up or slow down a little bit when you see the rhythm of his hand and like there's just so many little things To like performing live that like you just there's a visceral part of it that you can't capture and any other way and it's like You know It's an immediate art form or something that has to be like you said experienced, you know, I mean Because like you want to go blow over music. It's just it's there and it's gone But I mean the thing is you have to be there, you know what I mean to your experience, you know Well, yeah, there's just there's something you can't describe about it. It's like you know like I can tell you about the best concert I've ever been to and it's like and I can tell you and I can I could be the most eloquent I could be the most eloquent descriptor ever I could be earnest Hemingway with words and like describe it to you in the most beautiful pros But it's still not the same as being there and feeling it in your skin and feeling it in your bones and like You know, like it's there's just something about that like well I guess it is visceral if it has to be experienced, you know, and that's what I'm that's when I miss That's when I miss them about music because I mean, she's playing and I know how you know your playing music. I'm playing music Oh, so my my whole life. I mean My my mother tells me my mother tells me I was singing before I could before I could speak words that I like that I would like to sound like you know that I would sing before I could even speak words, you know, because That's just how I am I guess I still sing every day whether it's just for me, you know, but I still sing every day and So if you are sitting at home, right? You're sitting at home and you want to sing a song. What would you go towards? Oh, man, that's such a good question. Um, it depends on the mood, right? And sometimes Exactly Sometimes it's weird though like I don't know how you I'll and I'll turn this question back to you in a second like sometimes sometimes I sing To express my mood and sometimes I choose something intentionally to change my mood, right? Like if I there are times when I'm like I'm angry and I don't like that I'm angry So I'm gonna put on something super happy or something that I know makes me happy and then there are sometimes where I'm like No, I'm angry and I want to feel this motherfucker and I'm putting on slipknot and I'm like I'm just like raging and like You know, I'm like you just let it go and there's that release to it too. So it really it totally depends on the mood and like what's going on and And what's the intention behind what I'm singing like there are times like When I wake up in the morning and I sing I sing stuff that's in lower register because I want to improve my lower register range So that's when I'll put on my Johnny Cash and I'll start singing down here You know to try try try try try and work the lower register and then there are times when all like I'll try and I'll put on Chris Stapleton And I'll you know, I'll try I'll try and sing some Chris Stapleton stuff or I'll sing Hamilton like I'll sing that like Broadway tunes. I'll sing like it really it really depends on what I'm like in the mood for and what I'm What I'm trying to do and like I don't know. It's all it's all over the fucking map It's really really It really just depends on the day and the mood and you know and what's but how do you use like do you use music to change your mood? Or do you use it to express your mood or does it depend on the day for you to Again, it's it's something pretty similar Music for me is is kind of like it's a release, you know, like you said a emotional kind of release So There's times you're feeling it because I mean and I have been over these last couple months like because I said it's so dark and it's all Locked in time you're feeling kind of melancholy. So what I find that Feeling melancholy especially with the likes of the 90s, 90s artists like you know, it's the whole grunge thing and Alice in chains. I was like my my my my my right right to Alice in chains. Like Alice in chains. I was exactly what I was going to say Alice in chains. So they kind of taught you that it's okay to feel melancholy You can sing about feeling melancholy and that actually makes you feel better, you know And that that's why you find me so much better. So if I'm feeling kind of depressed or something Or just kind of pissed off like I generally go to the Alice chains and I pick out the guitar and you really got to got to build that out You know what I mean? Oh, yeah I think it's the force of actually getting that song out and really giving it everything you have That you generally gives you a sense of your warrior. So feel a little better. So when I'm feeling that kind of that way That kind of stuff helps and I'm having great fun. This is playing a bit of a Nick Drake stuff. Like I don't get no Nick Drake Well, Nick Drake is a narrator from the late 60s early 70s Just an acoustic guitar player from England, but his his stuff is phenomenal absolutely amazing guitar play and he plays all these mad different keys different different tunings in the guitar And I mean, I'm grateful kind of picking away with that for it. It's got a lovely soft voice and he's a really chill out So I mean genuinely go to the car and lunchtime I walk I'm after dealing with a hundred guys and we head as fucking melted I'll just go to the car and have a couple a couple coffee, you know, I love coffee, you know, in a jar I just put on a bit of Nick Drake and just chill out for 20 minutes half an hour and that kind of brings me back up Bring you back around again kind of meadows me out after me up that low you stress, you know, so like I said music is It that's a little bit of this it's such a release. You know, there's so much you can do with it That'll make you feel better. Yeah, and for me, it's been a catharsis since we know It's been a way of dealing with the whole thing and I can look yeah, but we're looking at I mean a lot of people don't have you know So between that and training and a few other things like this I'm kind of just keep me and an even key in through this last crazy terminals, you know I feel I feel like I feel like everybody has music whether they realize it or not like even if you can't sing even if you can't play But like if you just like if you if you can find your if you can find the music that speaks to you Like everybody has that available to them, you know, it's yeah, I don't know You're trying to find them. What I'm finding is your That's talking to my my own kids and lately David you know did they're not really into music that much, you know, um It's not something that's just as important to them as it is to the likes of maybe our generation I talked to a lot of like my family and friends Because their music is shite Yeah, you know, I hate to sound like that old guy. Yeah, I've that old guy like back in my day. We made real music But you know the music nowadays, but it's the popular music that's been put out on the airways is fucking You know, it's really bad. It's terrible, you know, it's auto tuned. It's just generic. There's there's no soul You know, where they think in the 90s and the previous that I think last really that the late 90s Kind of music had a purpose, you know, it had a feeling and had a way of making your feel, you know I have a I have a prediction now seem to be there. No, it's not the last 20 years. I don't think you know the odd couple of bands Say okay, you know that they're great In general, I think it's up to take the big slide. I think but I think we're gonna see it's always cyclical and I think I think we're gonna see I think we're gonna see coming out of covid. I think we're gonna see some really good music come in the next decade I genuinely believe that because because there are some there's a lot to process There's a lot of people that are really feeling the feels I guarantee you there is some musician out there Who was not a musician going into lockdown who came out of it a fuck lot better as a musician And like maybe found their voice and started writing and so like it might be like you probably saved some people And there's probably some really amazing music out there that just needs to be recorded and put out that's gonna come out over the next you know Couple of years that's just my maybe I'm being optimistic, but that's I think that's I think that's I think that's gonna happen Because generally I suppose that the best kind of music comes from like a really deep-fed emotion doesn't it? Yeah, you know, there's been a lot of depressed and fucking pissed off people over the last The last few months, you know, I mean it's taken it's taken a hit of a lot of people so many I Like some people make Used that channel that I'm put into music that that'd be great And we've had a lot of time to practice. Yeah I poured myself a bit of this stealing whiskey and it is very good. It's very good. Yeah, it's uh It's it doesn't have the bite that you get from from so it's very smooth very sweet. It's definitely sweet I do absolutely love whiskey. I love it too much. That's the problem. Oh shit What's the heavier one? I forgot the short. I gotta show you this man. Okay This is a bottle of potting Which is raw just on the care of distilled overspirus as I suppose made from potatoes and it's made illegally It's a moonshine. That's what we call that's what we call moonshine on state state side It's read over moonshine. It's about 75% proof And it is worth a 150 proof 75% potato grain alcohol And this is serious though But made from it's still up the mountains and and and and and eager still And I got a half a bottle of this of a friend of mine for Christmas and the bottle is small enough Small enough little but but I mean I drank that much over one night and I think I was drunk for about 25 26 hours And that's what that's what we call white dog here. That's the that's the the raw material that you used to make That you used to make bourbon. Yeah, take that take that put that and put that in an oak cast can Let that let that sucker age for four to four to 12 years and see how it see how it turns out Thanks for tuning into this special St. Patti's day edition of the platform podcast with David Killing I hope you're enjoying the conversation. I just want to take this opportunity to let you know that the Twin Cities catapult club We'll be hosting our first in-person competition on October 16th here in the Twin Cities hosted by our friends at the athlete lab So we'll be at little Canada, Minnesota You can find more information and register for the event on the Twin Cities catapult club website Can't wait to see you there now. Let's get back into it with David Killing Are you planning on competing later this year? I mean assuming everything opens up are you gonna are you gonna hop back on the platform and and competing in in sport soon? I can't see it happen here and I really can't because I mean We're still so locked down. It's hard to see past that you're what aren't you guys getting you got to be getting the saint Like you're gonna be getting vaccinated in the next six months like everybody's gonna be vaccinated by I mean by Thanksgiving, right? Like I put in and I put in like you have this Like app that you can put in when you expect to be vaccinated Um, you know when you get your your gym days I'm like my expected vaccination date is between the 15th of November to the 15th of May next year So do you think but do you think they're being realistic with that or is that being conservative because they don't want to let people down Like they don't want people to be disappointed Whereas we're doing it the other way. We're like hey everybody's gonna be vaccinated by the 4th of July You can have your spring you can have your sparklers in your barbecue, you know, um, which I don't mean I don't know if that's gonna happen or not but I hope they're playing it down, you know I really do because The thoughts are just another I mean it's like we're already in match, you know So it's also another another nine months not a year. This is a it's pretty fucking a present So I'd like to think I hope to think that we don't Kind of good to go by at least, you know, at least September You know what I mean? Yeah, if I even had like that the last bit this year that I could kind of say where to plan a few things are You know, I could I could go compete because me like the world has been put off. No, you know You know the world's been to happen last time remember we talk was the last July junior July. I think Time is so great now at all You know, I'm trying to play together. I think we're pleased in together Yeah, it was it was November was meant to be that the world's the IKMF words You know, I know we're kind of saying that is it going to happen this November, you know, that's You know, I mean, that's not 15 months from the last time we were talking, you know because like Even the logistics are getting people from all over the world to be able to flow in here To go compete like even run in a competition here I think I was like gonna have you know what I mean? Yeah, the logistics are wrong You know, everybody using the same kettlebells What are you gonna do clean the kettlebell after every every use, you know Warm up area. How are we gonna walk that chalk buckets? You know crowds social distancing, you know, the platform is okay. You actually cannot compete and should be okay But you know, it's the whole warm up area the whole do you know sanitize everything, you know, it's I can't see anything. Love you having here this year. I just can't see it. I hope I'm wrong I hope something happens in the year but I can't see there be 90 in-person competition here this year You know, whereas I'm talking like I was I was training and now it's a Jenny Jenny scandal and and Jenny was competing in an in-person company in America there. They give it I think it was a couple weeks ago two weeks ago And he competed in one in November and December because like Man, because we're looking at it the law you feed's going oh man, that's awesome You know look at everybody there look at them all there together in the gym, you know Well some of that some of that's like just because you know people in Florida are like Fuck you freedom. We don't care Like there's there's there's a bit of that here so that some of some of that is going on too where it's like you know 90% of the of the states are like still locked down in some form or fashion and then there's Texas and Florida are like Fuck you We're doing what we want we're we're independent where you know, so there's there's a bit of that going on too But okay, okay, I can see that one so it's not everywhere But I mean, even like talking to me with my friends over in or in Australia, you know, and keep in contact with those guys a lot Yeah, and like they're just trained away in gyms and they're having like competitions and See them all together training They locked they locked down their entire time. They closed they closed their borders and they closed their borders and locked on the whole country Contact trace got really aggressive with it and we're like they were just like no nobody can come in and let you can quarantine for two weeks and then and then and then but But nobody in with nobody in without a two-week quarantine and we're gonna we're gonna get on the other side of this and we're gonna be okay Because we live on an island and they're just like we're major and so are we I mean that's what I'm saying like Ireland was actually set up for it. We're in New Zealand. I mean, we're just just smaller to rock by itself in the middle of the ocean We could have just killed with the borders and said you're not coming in You know, that's it and if you're coming in you're serious you're locked down for two weeks Like you said if you want to just show them everywhere they will make they will know show the day for three or four weeks Make sure everybody is clear and they don't back up again and you're good to go, you know Why didn't they do that you know the main? I think well you you probably know better than I but my my hypothesis is because of being part of the EU That would have serious economic impacts right and they economic impacts that the politicians were not willing to answer for It's like like That's the thing I hate is like it's You get you get so many politicians that that like it's like part of leadership is telling people the hard truth that they don't want to hear Right, like you know that sucks. It sucks to tell somebody like hey the reason you're not losing weight is you're not following the plan or The reason you like maybe you need to stop drinking five days a week right that's the reason right like but that's part of leadership Sometimes it's like telling people the shit they don't want to hear is like yeah This is gonna suck but what we need to do is this and that's Based on the science and I'm sorry that you don't want to hear that but here's what needs to happen because it's better in the long term Yeah, it's gonna suck in the short term, but like we have to do that as parents right we have to do that like you have to do Let me tell your kids like no, I'm sorry you know you do have to go to bed at eight o'clock because that's your bedtime Yes, I would love to let you stay up until 10 o'clock watching animated acts or you know watching the next Disney movie But then you're gonna be an asshole tomorrow because didn't get enough sleep, you know You gotta do you don't want to do it out of those things but you gotta do it You know what I mean like you want to be cool dad you want to be that like you want to be the like Everybody wants to be popular and well-liked and of you know But sometimes sometimes being a good leader means being unpopular like there are times that there are times where you just have to be unpopular and be willing to be unpopular To do right by people, but and unfortunately In a elected office that might mean that you might not be an elected office much longer, but You know that's the problem and then they you made your own popular the thing and then like every way return you say hey look What is guys doing we tend to we're telling you can do this but this guy saying you can't do this and yeah Vote for me instead, you know Yeah, and that's and that's the problem is then you get the Then you get the florida's of the world that are like Vote vote for me because I didn't I didn't lock you in your home. It's like yeah, I like that guy That guy's fucking great You know, there's there's probably there's probably a happy medium in there somewhere, but it's a hard needle to thread and it is like Because new ones is hard to communicate to the masses That's the problem, you know, and it's only when you work with the general public to tweet us about stupid there, you know That I know you're like you're like like people are stupid and irrational a person might be very smart and very rational But people in general and and mass are irrational and and very dumb Oh man, you just gotta look at me. Yeah, the whole world just watched in horror in America. They're the last The last days of trauma, you know, I mean it was em like I said it was mass hysteria, you know, gone fucking mental over there. I was a It was an uncomfortable wash for the rest of the world, you know At times we were laughing at him and just kind of saying if this guy's a fucking clean one, okay, it's look like a silly he is You know, and then put in a it got fucking dangerous Yeah, how did how did you guys like our little mini coup that happened I was whatever whatever you want to call it the insurrection like I don't watch a lot of TV, but I was stuck to CNN for I think about Floyd days the seven days solid. I was just watching all day. I mean, I come home work At a long time, I'd watch it for an hour and then I come back and then watch it all in and on and then when we saw the the actual Capital riot take place. I mean we couldn't believe it. You know, is this actually happening in America? You know Yeah, America does this bastion of freedom and Democracy and just a fucking insurrection happened over there. You know, are you are you for real? You know And it was like It was uncomfortable viewing and then like at the start it was just like oh look at the funny guy with the arms And look at this guy sitting in a chair, but then you realize how fucking dangerous was he you got to be As the days went on you got to kind of move behind the scenes And images of guys getting bit but but but flag volas and and people getting shot and you say that was fucking really dangerous You know that within a hair is bread of becoming something Crazy all together, you know, yeah, we're actually a fucking military coup in America. So yeah, it was it was Uncomfortable, but you know riveting viewing to the others for a few weeks I know what was like to live through it. I mean, that must be true. It's scary. It was It was just incredulous was like is this actually what wasn't feeling? It was It was both of those things simultaneously I it was actually like the the The only time in my adult life that I can honestly recall feeling ashamed of Being American and that and that I don't say that lightly because I think to say it is it is. I'm very proud to be where I'm from and it's But I was like I just I just couldn't believe that it had gotten to that point where there was such a that there was such a narrative That had taken hold of enough people That they were willing that they were willing to that they were willing to harm others in order in order to But there's like so much behind it too because there's always that portion of the population here That's like just looking to you know, they're because there's like the deep the deep pockets of like The white supremacists that are just looking to like start a race war and those crazy, you know, those crazy bastards are just here And they they've been here forever and will probably be here forever You know, but the fact that they the fact that they were able to use that opportunity to like to get enough people to follow To follow that kind of charge, you know, it was Yeah, it was just It just made me like watch an abject horror and like it made me feel sick to my stomach to see like I I never thought it would get to that point Like I just never thought I would I never thought I would see the day where where like the capital building was forcibly breached You know by American citizens You know trying to overthrow the results of a democratic election You know, I was the end result of what you know That it was Americans. I mean, because you know all the way through the Bush regime and all that and everything was like I've been maddened and all that stuff and like you know far and invaders and stuff But for the capital building to actually be attacked by American people, you know people in your own country It was incredible, but I mean make it it just goes to show you You know that there's always two sides really good those people felt they were 100% Obviously, you know, yeah, they felt they were doing America a favor But you know, they thought they were doing the right thing That's and that's the thing that I mean you're right. It's it's both scary and it's also he like I try and look at it from the perspective of We're all capable of this right like there is a there is a there is Worked all capable of this type of behavior I mean like there are certain things that we all believe in enough that it's like yes, I would Do whatever it takes whether it's protect your family or like there are just certain things that you believe in enough To believe that you're you're willing to sacrifice your own well-being to protect them or you know and they 100% believed that what they were doing was Was right exactly and they believed terrifying, but also yeah, that's the scary. That's the scary thing You know that they believe what this is all again being fed by you. I mean What we brought home to me and Watching the American news, right Was that you have two separate persons reality, you know, you have Yeah, CNN and you have fox and both of them are polar opposite to each other And both of them have massive followings. So I mean One person like watching Fox News believes what they don't was right and whoever watches CNN news believe that what they don't was wrong But if you're brought up in a household that only shows that that's your reality. You don't know anything You know You you don't because if you're brought up, you know with bigotry and hatred like that. I mean we had that up in our tears Yeah, that if you brought up one way you don't want to know do it or be because they're over there way it's wrong In your way it's really that's it. Why because my daddy told me it's right. Yeah. Okay, you know, so You know, it just goes to show you the power of Like the medium or trailer of this whole thing as well, you know Well, now there's the add the add the add two dynamics to it right You add the dynamic of so of social media where you can self-select the people that you hear and that you don't hear so So it's like well, how can someone believe that this is the truth? It's like well, they're on a platform that allows them to self-select the message that they're hearing so they end up in an echo chamber You know, if you don't if you don't intentionally keep people in your circle whom you disagree with you end up in an echo chamber of your own belief system So it becomes self-reinforcing and you're like, well, how can anybody believe that Joe Biden legitimately won the election? I literally know zero people that that that believed that that actually happened and it's like okay Well, that's because you self-curated the people out of your life that or or maybe you live in an area where that's the belief And but you've also curated people out of your life that that believe differently than you Um, and it can go that can go either way like that's not that's you know, that can go either way But then so you add that to it and then you put it inside the pressure cooker that we've been talking about of the pandemic and lockdown And all of the economic pressure that goes along with that you have definitely you have people that are desperate for Things to be different because they are out of work for an extended period of time or they're locked at their house And they're going fucking crazy and like so like you add those two components to it and suddenly it's like You put the lid on top of a boiling pot and sealed it and it's like Like that the pressure cooker of the of the pandemic like just made it that much worse, you know Yeah, and it also doesn't it also doesn't help that you have a leader who has you know, who has the choice to either To either to either press the release valve and be like hey, let's release some of this pressure before this thing blows up Or to turn up the heat and he decided he opted for turning up the heat because he thought that's what was beneficial to him Yes, you know, it was It was it was it was the perfect storm of all of that, you know, and you explained it very succinctly and very eloquently And but that's what it was it was just this perfect storm of two or two or three or four different things that that All coming together and then from the very very top Not hitting the release which just things and putting the fire on her and it just show people over the age, you know And yeah, it was um What's it like over there now? What's the general feeling now is is there People I people are behind the current president our day is there still a lot of His approval rate is about 50% which is Okay, I mean that's it's that's certainly much better than Trump's was But it's also not anywhere close to like what Obama's was and it's you know, but it and We feel more and more tribal honestly. It feels more and more it feels more and more diverse Yeah, it feels more and more divided all the time where it's we've we've we've we've divided into these two parties very very Strangently and it's gotten more divided over over the years You know and I I feel like it's getting slightly better I hope so because I feel like Biden did do a good job of trying to speak to You know like we have a lot more in common than than we don't and you know I feel like there are some people that have embraced that and I feel like there I hope and this could just be self-serving bias But I hope there are more people like me that are like I don't view the people that are Republicans as bad people or as enemies like and people like, you know I know people in my I know people in my life that supported Trump Especially in the first election and then and then didn't in the second election because they they're like You know, I don't like what he's doing. I know people that supported Trump in both elections And I'm still friends with some of those people too right like so long as they're not like Well, that are so long as I don't think that they're a bad person Fundamentally like you know like but they have their reason like I always try and look at like why do they believe the way that they believe in what do they believe in and Do like it's okay for them to believe that there's a different way for the country to go that is a better way than what we're currently going because we can have we and so long as they're willing to have civil disagreement You know That's that's what it breaks into you know then because because then I would be I would be being arrogant to think that my way is the only way or the best way That would be intellectually arrogant of me so so long as we can have conversation where it's given taken They can explain why they think the right way to go is x y or z and y I think the right way to go is you know A B and C like then we can talk about and that's a probably about that that but that feels like how diametrically opposed some of the The viewpoints are and hopefully we can meet somewhere near the middle But like it feels like you have this huge push and pull back and forth and it feels like these These things are getting more and more extreme and we're getting more intransigent and things are not you know There's less and less willingness to compromise and there's like entire like movements within the the US political culture that are like literally called no compromised movements like there's a group of gun rights advocates who are like Zero compromise on anything gun rights related like if you if you say machine guns are You know aren't aren't legal then that's a slippery slope to all guns are illegal right? That's their logic and it's like Like they're not helping the dialogue like you know, even the lake But I know that like 80% of Americans support the idea of like universal background checks to buy a firearm like 80% of Americans support that idea That's a lot, you know, but the problem is a lot of people and I'm really talking so much like this always should be you know what I mean That's a it's not a super controversial thing like hey you want a gun We want to just check out that you're not a crazy person and not a right-wing extreme extremist and not a left-wing extremist Okay, cool like that's a fairly reasonable thing to expect I think I think But there but there is a portion of the population that thinks that that's crazy But there is a 50% portion of the politicians that will not support that because they won't get reelected if they support that right And that's the problem is there's the disconnect between What the the will of the people is and what actually happens in in legislation is like There's such a huge disconnect there and I feel like that's a big part of the problem on both sides because that's why the the beliefs get more extreme and the thing like there's I don't know we went way down a very A very complicated very complicated rabbit hole, but I appreciate the question It's very interesting drawings, you know, it is and like I said The divisiveness is is always a worry because when you just have two parties, you know And some people will just vote blue and some people will just vote red just because that's the way their their parents voted are the way they were brought up and It creates a dangerous kind of relationship. You're not voting far a person are there You know their their beliefs are what their ideas are for governance. You're just voting it because there were Either blue or red and I say to you know and it's it's happening in a lot, you know And they can say social media echo chambers is it's a dangerous fucking it's a dangerous dangerous thing, you know And then you got to hold QAnon thing that happened and people just like say to jump and down rabbit holes And just dig in these fucking trenches and just going deeper and deeper and deeper And they can say everybody they're agreeing with them and suddenly the most crazy things you can think of Are like did this does the belief that this kind of still happen and say It's it's crazy. This would have never happened. I mean, it's like every fucking lunatic now can just put out anything online And you can have a load of people agree with you Like the only time you ever get that before the internet was you met some mad fucker down the pub We started talking shite and you just stepped away from her as a way of retouching before the lunatic, you know what I mean Well, if you and I if you and I were sitting down at the pub and I was like Let me tell you something David There there is a whole fucking cabal of of of elites that are satanic pedophiles that are running this there they're the ones running everything They're the fucking ones running everything and you know how I know cuz Q told me this this guy He's like a deep like he's deep in the government you'd be like you'd be like you just sit there and laugh and you Have a laugh and sip your drink I just woke up You just believe this hookline and fucking sinker and that's like I said and they're just Bounce in these wild or crazy ready is of each other all the time Until certainly you get the idea like that somebody's fucking eating cannibal babies and It's just some crazy shit and really really hiss, you know There is some fucking lyrics out there from afar you know because I saw you needed to have farming you know, yeah Yeah, because it's Well, I mean, it's because because there's the you know The entertainment factor of it too, you know like we all want to be entertained and distracted and we want to feel special And it's like hey, I know what's really going on You know, I want to know what's really going on and it's like you know The simplest explanation is that the world's just kind of crazy and fucked up But you know, you don't want to hear that you want you want to you want to create order out of chaos So the the easier way to do it is with the conspiracy theory that makes no logical sense, but You know, but it's a form though, but it makes you feel like there's order to the universe and that you are you that you are the one who understands that order So, you know exactly But yeah, man, I just want to like I'm just a simple guy. So I just like training Playing music I found me and my friends and that's pretty much it And I'm I'm a complicated guy that is trying really hard to be simple Working on it I just I mean all I think about all day I'm in work. I can't wait to fall And I do some training, you know, and I'm just involved to think I can't wait won't be some training and then I do some training That's great. They're all hungry. So what is and there's a piece of music And then it's about nine o'clock that's time for bed Yeah, I can relate to all of those are just like I was I was at work Literally thinking about God. I can't like what's on the agenda for training tonight. Oh That's gonna suck, but I can't wait to do it And then I was and then I was in training being like oh, I have tacos in the fridge. I can't wait to eat those tacos You know That I was and that I was eating those taco and then I was eating those tacos And I was like, oh, it's could be really nice to just hang out with my wife for a little while after dinner Yeah, I was like, you know, those very simple pleasures All those things, you know But that's it, you know, good being a guy is great. We just think of one thing at a time, you know My wife always says that I wish I could only think of one thing at a time But that's usually like I get distracted. It's the 80 HD thing where it's like, you know, I like I should be Thinking about this thing and I think about that. Oh wait, but shiny thing Oh look, it's a gold bottle It's got a good case on it. It must be good. It is good. But you know, is it? Oh, yeah, it's what was it going? I must get me some of it. What is it? Tealing? Tealing romcast. It says tealing whiskey small batch Um, rom, romcast. Yeah, romcast finished So It was only it was only uh, it was only like 30 bucks, you know, stateside so it's I imagine it's probably cheaper there So no, it's cheaper to boy drink away. There's no way to hear really and yeah, I found out about it with the Germany and um I was staying in a friend's house. I gave up his aunt and from his family wife there a couple of years ago And he moved in with his and his better half for a few days And I bought him a really nice bottle of ocean wine so it's like a distinct cast like like a hundred quid a year Yeah, but I'm told when I saw I saw he was shot over there like to make farty quid I was like, just come and sink him a fucking cheese game Just I was like, just we cost me a hundred fucking quid at home And like a boy in a gym. I was made here, you know what I mean? I was made fucking farty mine is the way up the road That doesn't make sense It doesn't make one of us just attacks the tax on drink here is huge because Irish people do like a drink I drink a lot so the taxes massive on drink And no matter what it is we're going to be it because Do we still mean we can fucking deal with that for the most? So if you I don't know how much you like to read, but I just I just picked up a book At the recommendation of a buddy in mine who's a big who's a big bourbon fan as well And so you've heard a papi van winkle right the the American the American bourbon So there's a book called papi land that is that is about That is about the Julian van winkle the third so papi papi van winkle the third and about like the transition of papi van winkle from being a family owned Distillery with this multi hundred year history To being bought by the buffalo trace distillery which is owned by which is owned by a conglomerate You know, and how he's trying to preserve the legacy of his family Across this transition. So he's trying to preserve the legacy of this like renowned distillery And it's so steeped in the tradition of the southern southern part of the United States and Kentucky which is a very you know Roll in southern area and then this this other the writer who's doing the writing the book is is also waiting to find out whether or not He's going to be a father um, so it's it's got this really cool thread of like you know He's waiting to find out whether he's a father and this guy like just survived a cancer treatment And he's trying to figure out how to keep the the legacy of his family alive and so I'm like 10 chapters into it It's a it's a fantastic book and the chapters are really short So it's like you know each chapter might be three to five pages So you can read it in very small chunks, but it is a nice It is it is just a really really awesome piece of writing um, I read it I planned on reading it for like an hour last night or for like 10 minutes last night And I ended up reading it for an hour and like there was one One passage that stuck with me so much that I actually texted it to a friend of mine this morning So the monuments we erect shouting into the wind that we were once alive and that are hopes Then we had hopes and dreams often end up becoming a shrine to the fallacy and futility of that desire itself Ooh, that's deep I like that I was like, oh god, like That might be the that might be the best line on the human condition I've heard in like 20 years So much You know what I kind of make sure to encourage And it was just like an aside as part of a paragraph, you know But it's like it's really really really well done. I think you would I think you would want to call it again It's called Pappy land. Oh, I'll text it to you. It's it's it's fantastic. It's really good I'm I'm I'm very I'm very happy that I picked it up. Oh, yes Another reason I want to go to Scotland because I got over there for a workshop Of course, you're looking to me because scotch Yeah, man, I want scotch. I went to to um to Inverness and I've done a workshop over there with Linda and David I think it was a very starter last year And oh man, it's one of the best ones ever. Don't like Scotland is beautiful. You know, it's It's incredible and the people are like at the very same as us, you know And very thick accents, you know, I told we to take action, but they're worse And just don't make it with this thing and the further north to go the the stronger the accent gets Yeah, the very very north of Scotland here open in Ernesto was not early city in England aren't in England and fucking to be sure and then Yeah, the key you're you're made talking to your hard time about that one Oh, we're gonna get killed. I'm gonna get you're gonna get you're gonna be a fucking roasted for that one Oh, well, but we went to the McCallum that distillery Oh, that's my favorite. That's my favorite scotch I love McCallum the high-end We got to do the tour and the tours on the leaflet Okay, twist my arm. Okay, I'll go Yeah, man, you're coming over and we're gonna lift some stones I'm gonna drink a shit on a whiskey and I have it all mapped out I have it mapped out exactly day-to-day. I'm gonna live three stones this day And I'm going to go to the McCallum and then I'm gonna live three stones this day And I'm gonna go to the Glen Ferry one and then I'm gonna lift this one and then so yeah, man I have a long weekend of lift after I lift all three stones in order to earn the right to actually Drink the scotch because I feel like that's the that's the new warrior's challenge right You said oh no, we'll do it the Viking wave if you can only lift this coin you get half of a glass if you can lift all you get a full glass Right here I comment because I'm drinking the quote as well But yeah, I can't wait. It's it's kind of like this little king at the like the lawyer at the end of the tournament for me My knowledge was or it's it's something to do for me again Then I'm that yeah, I've got an open invitation everybody wants to go over and join me to morning welcome I'm gonna set up a page put up a Facebook thing and everybody wants to come over and try it They're more than looking I think be grateful, you know Don't threaten me with a good time man. I'll show up unexpected. I I can't tell you how many times I've been I've been in my head planning a tour of Ireland and Scotland because I want to go see the mother country and You got a good one. I want to go hit the Distilleries and all of that. So we got it all we got it all here as well, you know, don't think we don't have to Is the stone lifting culture, but I mean We got a shit ton of culture. I mean, we got a we got a great place here. I mean, you got to come over, you know I'm sure you're around the sites We got a little bit of local history. We do a shit ton of drinking hopefully the public background and again Because we really know his skin is I mean Guinness over here It's so different when you have it abroad. I've not ever had gone with the workshop Away, you know, I have to put it again. It's just just just different seamless very different countries I think it's like the further away from Dublin you go like the horse the point gets You know, so in Europe and and I love it. I love it here. So I'm I'm probably never going to leave Ireland I'll be a beat America and a few times and it's it's possible. It's okay, you know, it's it's it's okay But when you go have a point in Dublin and it's like it's literally like a point to fucking cream on the top and Just that the taste of it. It's just so different. I remember when to Australia their last year. I had a point Guinness not straight and it was putrid. It was fucking horrible And even as the barman was pouring it he was like first of all he said there I know you're from early. I just got a really apologize I'm walking the Guinness He said it's not good. I said you're really focused on this aren't you That's why I drink local so whenever you go to a place you drink whatever the local whatever because it's going to be best closest to the source So you go to Ireland you drink Guinness you go to you go to Scotland you drink scotch you go to Italy or France you drink wine, right? Like, you know, it's lots and lots that's Well, so if you want to go anywhere in you like anywhere in Europe say where would your top three be? So I've been to Italy, but I've only been to Venice So I would love to go to Rome and and throughout the just northern Italy and and just I would just like to see and experience Italy France I definitely want to go to and go to the like I love wine So I would love to go to the French wine region and you know and see that Um God see my answer is always just yes like I just want to go like I want to go everywhere, you know, it's good Like wonder where we were it's great to keep going Yeah, I've I've been to I've been to Germany. So I've been I've been to Munchen and you know, I've been to I've been to Schwibitz-Germund and a couple other places. So I like I like Germany. I would love I I'm sure I'll go back to Germany because my my wife's my wife's brother lives there and we have family there So we've we've got it. We've got a nephew that we're yet to meet because of COVID So we gotta yeah, we gotta get back there But I'd like I'd love to go to Switzerland, but like there's so many like I want to go to Norway I want to go I want to go to see the Isles I want to go you know, I've never been to London. I've never been to Britain at all actually anywhere in Britain So like, hey, you know, I want to go everywhere Yeah, man, I'm just looking along with them, you know, I mean, I'm looking off to have been to one of those places they all have fantastic things of fantastic people and and You know in Northern Italy like a Old Dallas, Andrew and and his his wife Kiara and Got up around them the water for our days and touring and on like Northern Italy It's beautiful. The people are fantastic and they know how they ease They know how to lift and they know how to have a good time up there You know, they're a great bunch of people No, Spain. How did I leave Spain after like I've spained? Yeah, man Spain I've been in Spain spain spain in Greece and everywhere history into so much To the people are so proud of it are from you know, I but the good thing but Europe is I think she's so close You know, yeah, when we take her for granted. I mean you hop on a plane and like literally like a like an hour flight from from Dublin here. You're on me and it Europe and you can just go anywhere you want it. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I mean, even like Moscow is only a four-hour flight You know, yeah, so I mean you've got to hold a Europe within a four-hour flight You know, we don't realize how until you go to like Australia and see America see your big these fucking places You actually realize that Jesus we have a great here. I mean, we're within that A very sharp journey. You get into anywhere in Europe Like I'm ever going to Australia and they could go. He's having to fly four hours five hours Just to fly to a national competition, you know from one side of Australia to the other. Yeah You have to fly fucking nearly five hours In the same country for the nationalists. Well, so so like we've got we've got our competition coming up in October And one of my athletes is in Alaska. He's in Fairbanks, Alaska and he's talking about flying in from Fairbanks So he's gonna have to fly in from Fairbanks. He's basically, you know, the west side of Russia You know, he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna have, you know, probably a five-hour flight just to get state side And then another like three-hour flight to get here, you know, so like Yeah, I mean, and people pissing one member people pissed the moon in Europe about having to go to you know for the Europeans And having to fly like three hours and the momentum at the time it takes And then like I would go with Australia was like, you shut the fuck up. You get him and anytime we go to him Like I wore a challenge if you have to fly maybe 16 to 20 hours It's so funny how cultural that is too because like, you know my my My sister-in-law who's from from Germany they they flew over here to come visit and and they were like Oh, yeah, it's it's such a long drive to go from, you know, one place or another's like three and a half four hours and I'm like I'm like, what that's not like we drive like I think I did a gym before like it's it's like it's a six it's a six-hour drive to go from you know Minneapolis to Chicago like I'll do that in a day like that's no big deal And they're like oh my god that's so far like you would go through two different countries if you did that in Europe You know, I'm like, yeah, I mean I mean we people here pissing the moon about having to draw you like two hours to get to a place two hours You know, you could literally go to a whole way across orbit in two and a half to three hours literally from coast to coast You know what I mean? That's crazy. That's crazy to me like I can't I can't go from from tip-to-tip in the state of Minnesota in in three and a half hours Right like like the state just the state that I live in like it is like a five and a half hour drive from tip-to-tip or more I mean, I mean it's it's We can't even think about that of you because I can go from I'm down the very party south of Ireland Don't know what for the southeast so we go from the southeast. They weren't up to Norton or up to on was the very top of earth in three and a half hours You know, and that's the whole length of art, you know from top to bottom three and a half to four hour drive max, you know But I mean, it's it's a small little place, you know, but we're chocolate character. We got some good people over here You know, we're good at watching. I find that we need when we get away to come stuff people tend to kind of gravitate towards us and Just because we're so said definitely we're just you know, we're a phony bunch of people. We don't take us as do you seriously? You're earning you're earning you're earnest and honest and you don't take yourself seriously. You know how to have fun. Yeah That's it man. Exactly. You know, I mean, and we're a good one especially on the night so, you know, fuck me You can hold your lacer. You can hold it. You can hold the tune. Yes And the Australians as well, they're folk and mint They're absolutely mad for the beer, but I think they're happening or Irish and it's So yeah, I bad info is gets in every I was your own trainer go mum. What's what's your training like right? What's your what's your plan? I so I train with my team, which is great So I'm on the same plan. I was actually just talking with one of my athletes about this. She was she was asking. She's like She's like, what so do you she's like you you've worked with a lot of coaches, but you don't have a coach right now And I was like, yeah, because right now especially when we're in this like really weird like remote world, right I feel like it's the best thing for me is to go through the same training that I'm putting my athletes through So I lead my class like when we do practice together I'm doing the training with my team and I'm I'm training the exact same sets and everything I'm training with the weights that are appropriate for me, but I'm like, you know, I'm pacing that's appropriate for me But I'm doing the same the same duration of sets and everything is the rest of my team because like for example The work at that I programmed for Saturday's workout was a fucking kick in the ass and it on paper on paper It didn't sound it didn't sound it didn't sound that bad, you know But it was it was a it was a fucking kick in the ass So it was it was a three three One-minute slow jerk sets followed by a five minute so and then a three and then a three-minute rest I'm sorry three two-minute two-minute slow jerk sets and then and then followed by a three-minute rest And then we did a five-minute just jerk set at that competition pace And then we did two one-minute rack holds after that with with plus four kilos to whatever your competition weight was And then we took and then we took like 10 minutes off and then we did Three three by three of swing snatch so we were gonna low high and then full snatch So we did three minutes times three sets of that with three minutes of rest and then we did a two-minute sprint of snatch With your competition weight at competition pace which is your team hate you are you are you haze it's generally I mean, I hate myself when I do So I said I actually like when I program I like black out and I'm like like you know, oh my coach is an asshole You know, I send my programming to myself, and I'm like god my coach is an asshole But like so I didn't like on paper. I was like I knew that's an intense workout But I didn't think that it was gonna be like, you know, like a terrible kick in the ass like it was but but when I got done with it It was it was it was 90 minutes of work. I burned 1187 calories in 90 minutes And I'm I'm still sore today So I took off yesterday and like did a did a did a walk and did some like GPP stuff, but I didn't I didn't I didn't lift the bells yesterday I'm still sore today, and we have another biafalan session today, and then we have long cycle on Wednesday, you know so But part of the reason I like that I do that I do the training with my with my athletes is that I know a little bit like experientially what they're feeling and what they're going through so like today I'm gonna tell everybody like hey, that's very important I'm very sore if you're very sore like I am like hey, I'm not gonna do 22 kilos today I'm gonna go down to 20s and yeah, and like I'm gonna adjust a little bit because I'm still super sore from from saturday So if you're in the same boat that I'm in then you can do the same thing and like you know It gives me a little bit more empathy No, but that's that's a very important trait to have as the trainer because I see a lot of guys online And really fucking growing them here is that there's guys who are doing like kettlebell certifications and suddenly they're kettlebell coaches and You know, especially sport cultures if really fucking annoys me is like I didn't want to become a coach Until I gained master sports rank and until oh, this is put me personally Yeah, I'm feeling attacked right now because I might not ever get to master sport because I'm not nearly as talented as you This is just in my own head. I said this is in what I wanted to do because I wanted to Get to that level so if anybody ever wanted to get to that level with me I knew what I felt like and I knew what it was like to get to that level Yeah, and I knew that I'm gonna pay in that fucking How Jake and strain takes to get to that level that I can empathize and I know what feels like, you know So I didn't train anybody for years and it's only when I literally got asked and asked the last that I started training Even the last maybe two years, but then I then I felt like okay against the master's sport rank and both The marathon and the duration. Yes, so I was like okay now. I can say to myself right that I feel I know I know about this board And long cycle especially and that's all I pretty much trained people it that I know not about it now that I can I can I can train people To improve in it, you know Yeah, so and it brings me curious you guys there who literally just know that they can maybe a weekend certification are They got an online search and they've they've never lifted That sports are they've only lifted very very low, you know, and Very low weights for a very sharp period of time But the fuck do you know about training? You know, I mean What do you know about about going up weights and what do you know about health? Training it takes and how much dedication it takes and the much time of your life you did the dedicated is to get to that level You know, you don't so I mean I put yourself forward as a coach, you know, that kind of thing I Always kind of got to me, you know, especially just a couple of guys. I see you on my blade leave the last couple of weeks That I've you know, I've just become a coach You know, hit me up for care about sports education, you know, our kind of a sport training. Yeah, who are you? What did you live? Show me your echo I I have two minds on that. I'm like, okay Like Bill Bella checked didn't become the best American football coach in the planet But because he's an NFL player, but he's also paid his dues like he's been a coach for you know He started as a you know, he started as a junior assistant coach and then became or whatever you mean Started as a fucking equipment manager and then worked his way up to a analyst and then they know then a system You know, he's got 40 years in the you know, but it's like I'm with you. It's like there's but he's working Way up through the system and he's felt what it's like from the boom boom up, you know what I mean That's what again, that's what you're gonna understand that guy. He's like he you know what I say to get off He's seen everything, you know from from the back that are front So I mean that kind of stuff is great, but you're someone who just picks up a fucking bed and becomes coach Yeah, I just I it's it's my own it's my own defense mechanism of against against my own lack of a lack of high level accomplishment on the platform right like, you know, the highest rank. I've achieved is rank one, you know Yeah, you know, but I did just I did just finish a 10 minute triathlon, you know And you know, it's I was about to ask you and I asked what's your favorite thing? It doesn't have to be kept in the sport What's your favorite thing that you've ever done? Accomplished and sport voice in your in your career in your life. So oh god What's the thing that it doesn't have to be the best thing? What's the what's the favorite thing that you've done That you say fucking already we proud of that and I don't you know proud of what I don't proud proud of Pro proud of Sorry for not a spot. No, no, it's a great question. And I don't I don't I have such a hard time being proud of accomplishment Like it's a it's a struggle of mine like I'm not real good at tasting the champagne. I'm not real good at that You should be mad because it's all part of Yeah, yeah, it's just I struggle with that. I'm always I'm very self-critical So like probably the most fun and like the thing I'm probably the proudest of that I that I did and in sport was in sports just in general was I My senior year of high school we had a really really good football team and we We won the conference championship in our high school We we actually didn't allow a point to be scored on us until the seventh game of our 10 game football season so we were a very very good football team and we But we lost in the second round of the state playoffs to the eventual state champion We lost by like two scorers to the eventual champion And they went out like blue the doors of every everyone else And actually like that head coach told our head coach like you guys were our championship game Like you guys were the best team that we faced, you know But that was still heartbreaking like that was still one of those like I was super proud of that Because that like I was one of the I was one of the the leaders on that team and like I had pushed a lot of A lot of our players in the offseason to like train harder and to you know So like you know, so like being you know, and it was a small group like that I couldn't handle Yeah, but yeah, I had a good hand in that and I like I was a good player But I wasn't even the best player on my high school team, you know But I like of that we had 22 23 guys on our roster and of that almost half of them went on to play college football With for a very small team. We were very very talented Yeah, that's fantastic. I had a lot of good players So it was a lot and it was just a lot of fun because we like we were all Tighten it and we worked hard and you know, we took it we took it relatively seriously for for high school seniors You know, so it was it was a lot of fun that that was probably the thing. I was that was probably the most fun I've ever had playing sports, you know, you know, you know, and that's something you should be very proud of that That's fantastic, you know, it's it's great to hear so because I mean I love asking people that because it makes people kind of Caused think it's like oh, yeah, yeah, I did that you know That was great, you know, you know, it's it's nice to sometimes sit back and think you know, you know, I've done something pretty fucking cool And I mean yeah, yeah And I look and I look and I look when I look at like kettlebells like I look like you know, I it's been Shit, it's been like five years now since I since I really started competing seriously and like like think about like oh my first competition I couldn't finish 10 minutes on the 16s with long cycle and I finished the 10 minutes Natch set but I couldn't finish the six I couldn't finish a 10 minute long cycle set on the 16s and now like to to to do like a Triathlon with the 20s and do 10 minutes sets with the 20s and you know like that's a long way to come and you know I was I was I was I was not happy with the fact that I didn't finish the 10 minutes on on long cycle But I but I probably could have But there was a Whole fault like there's a whole thing with that Like I because of the online competition my camera fell over during my first set and I had I stopped like two minutes So I stopped two minutes into my first my first set and then I and then I Hopped off I went and coached one of my athletes or watched one of his sets for the I watched his long cycle because he was right after me And that had been the plan looks I was gonna do my set and then I was gonna go watch his set So like but I only did my first two minutes and then I and then I hopped off Went and watch the first seven minutes of his set and then I had to go get back on because they added me to the last flight of the day So then I had to go like get back on the platform and then I like and I told myself like okay Okay, if you only you know make it to five minutes and then we can see how we feel from there Which in my head I gave my permission to put the bells down at five minutes and sure enough at five minutes I put the bells down like I made it to like five minutes and 20 seconds and set set the bells down But I could have gone longer than I probably could have finished the 10 minutes it wouldn't I wouldn't hit my number But I could have finished the 10 minutes, you know, and there and again It's it's it's the thing when you when you go to a cop and I remember going to my four-step awards in in Hamburg and [100:03] Giving so much energy to the other and people in my team [100:08] Really like shouting roaring helping them on chalk and bells [100:14] Given as much as possible because they're just so far excited to be there in my fourth world [100:19] And by the time I went on myself [100:21] Which was later on the day [100:23] Emotionally I was drained, you know, it's actually emotionally drained before I even went down to do my own [100:29] And consequently I came forth [100:32] And when I knew that if I hit my numbers and training I would have come first [100:36] And it was a Harapulte swallow, but it was a great it was a great learning curve that [100:40] I gave out so much energy at the start just through pure excitement [100:44] Yeah of being at a world stage and watching all these happily lifters lift, you know and [100:49] Not probably not eating right coming out, you know, not not hydrating well [100:55] And giving out so much, but then when I went on then I made a mistake [100:59] What I mean the next year I didn't do that the next year I did it really didn't go into the stadium until about maybe [101:04] 45 minutes before my lift and then went to get then came in got the music in my ears done my warm up done my training, you know [101:12] Pre-contraining and I went under the stadium, you know, and it was like [101:17] Little things that are great great things to learn from you know what I mean as you go forward in your especially in international life because [101:27] Small little things make a massive difference from like so many more two reps in it, you know what I mean? Yeah, you're there like [101:34] You all could be training in a eight arc game they could be [101:37] 10-12 guys doing eight arc in on 24-C [101:42] And whoever like, you know, there's only one rep to win it [101:45] So little tiny things make a massive massive difference, you know, so it's like [101:49] David you have a good enough night's leave? [101:52] David you eat well enough did you have enough kind of slow risk at the start of the day are you well hydrated, you know [101:57] and [101:58] David you give out too much energy before your your your competition? David you are you standing around doing too much I mean because after a competition [102:06] I am mr. Team I bought over it. I'm helping out champ bells. I'm shouting and roaring people on horse the next day [102:14] But before I go on [102:16] I'm sorry. I'm just gonna be self-reliable. I just kind of do my own thing go go home stay at home [102:22] Hit the the complex maybe five minutes whenever before I'm staying available and then lift, you know [102:27] And that seems to be what works for me [102:29] Yeah, you gotta you gotta stay in that you gotta stay in the pocket as an individual lifter and that was that was a big learning curve for me from this from this comp [102:36] this [102:38] Walk and all you know, it's a you're a coach, you know, you want to be different [102:43] That that was and that was that that was the the big thing for me is it's like [102:47] And I went into it being fully like I was fully prepared to not perform to my [102:55] Best capability in order to be there for my athletes. I was fully prepared for that [102:59] I was mentally. I was like my athletes are the priority. I want everyone to do their best and like [103:06] You know like I had one of my athletes was doing her by Athalon sets were scheduled for the flight right before my set [103:13] And so I was like hey, I'm gonna be there to coach you and she's like don't you need to be warming up? [103:17] And I was like no my set comes second. I don't care [103:20] Like this is your first go at by Athalon like I don't care if if if I miss my number that's fine [103:27] But I want to be there for you and I was fully mentally prepared for that [103:30] But what I didn't fully understand was like you said the mental energy and how emotionally drained [103:36] I was I was gonna like just how much it was going to affect me like because I had consistently hit [103:43] 12 to 14 RPMs [103:45] In in training on jerk on the double 20s. So I was my target my target was was 130 reps [103:51] That was my target that I thought I was going to be able to hit was 130 reps. I hit a hundred [103:57] I hit a hundred and nine because it was just like I didn't get a warm-up in which I [104:03] You know that was just and that was fine. I didn't get a warm-up in and but then I was like [104:07] The I didn't realize how much I my empathy would give me the adrenaline rush and dump that you feel on the platform yourself as well [104:15] Because I care so much about how my athletes are doing. So like it's [104:19] Oh, George. This is huge [104:21] I remember I was coaching Sharon Minnes and Sharon was going for the world's two years ago [104:26] No in in 2018 2019, but she was um she was in great form and she was going into the world [104:33] I was like this girl could win she could really win this world. You know how much her snatch and 16s [104:39] She put me huge numbers. She was fucking filling in and I remember I was getting confidence [104:44] I was getting so worked up. I mean for three nights before hand I wasn't sleeping and then when I knew she was on [104:50] Because it was on a silk rea like I was walking around work. I literally left my station [104:54] I went up and I just was pacing the whole upstairs [104:58] Watching her lift and I was like I was fucking trained after I was so tired [105:03] I literally had to go to the car to sit down for 10 minutes and that was just like watching my athlete lift [105:08] You know what I mean? Yeah, and then was like you'll put that in your space. I had five [105:14] I had five athletes lifting in that competition. I was the sixth [105:17] So I was like I was all over the fucking map [105:21] Oh man, you'd be fucking wrecked. You know, you'd be wrecked after that and then I slept like a baby. It's not going to happen [105:28] You know, but I mean it's great that as a coach you were there especially for a force competition because you know [105:33] like these online comps and at the moment it's like you know they're they're grand but I mean [105:37] To give people the taste of their force make the force or maybe force a second competition and to be their pharma [105:42] I mean, they need that, you know what I mean? [105:44] You know, they really they will solve their foxy. That's um, that's been a good coach [105:48] Yeah, I mean, that's that's always like at this point. I've like [105:52] I want I want to continue to get better as as a lifter myself because I'm still young enough that I can still improve and I can I can achieve [106:01] But my priority at this point has shifted to where I want my athletes to like I'm far more proud of what my athletes do than what I do [106:10] And it's I mean, it's also beneficial that my athletes are all better than me so [106:14] You know [106:16] That makes it that makes it a lot easier [106:17] But like I'm like I don't know. I'm just I'm so much I'm so much more proud of like if one of my if if I hit rank one [106:24] I'm like, okay, cool. That's what I expected of myself or if I hit CMS [106:27] But like when one of my athletes doesn't I'm so much more proud of that [106:31] You know, it should be me because like you were the going to go eating hand at that because it's different for you [106:36] Isn't it? I mean [106:38] I'm only kind of new enough to coaching into a person for a couple of years. I don't know [106:41] You're just so proud of them when they do it. You know what I mean? You really are, you know [106:45] It's it's a great feeling, you know, especially especially when they like they execute the plan perfectly [106:50] And it's like like like when everything go like when everything comes together and and go like you're like, okay [106:56] We've spent so many months like training and doing all of this and like, okay, here's the plan and like you have somebody that's like [107:03] They come in like you said they're really they're really prepped and you're like god [107:06] They're gonna fucking crush it and especially when you're like you're gonna crush it and they're like [107:09] I don't know I'm because we all have those doubts in our head as an athlete like they're like yeah, they're like [107:14] I'm not sure and like in you in my head like I could see their performance more than they could and I'm like no [107:19] You're gonna fucking crush it like I can see it like you're gonna fucking crush it and you tell them that and they're like [107:24] Okay, well, I'm not sure I feel that yet, but okay, you know [107:27] And then it goes out and they make it happen they execute the plan perfectly [107:31] And it goes exactly like you thought it was going to go and you're like [107:35] See I told you [107:38] I fucking I fucking told you [107:40] And they're like yeah, you're right and they're like so [107:43] Estoked because like they performed even better than they thought that they could and you believed in them the whole time like [107:49] No, man, it's great [107:52] That's kind of what I'm heading towards more than myself because like I said in our previous interview that [107:58] I'm very very lucky to say that I've done everything I wanted to support I feed every girl I wanted to eat and there's not a lot of people can say that [108:04] And I need some now you know now. I mean [108:07] I literally ticked every box that I wanted to take [108:10] So now I'm out the other side of it and competition-wise. I'd still job in every now and again [108:15] And what it's just for fun is really to get my my competition edges gone because [108:20] Everything like you know when you say like at the start [108:22] I wanted to get under national team. I wanted to become [108:25] An amateur European champion. I wanted to become an amateur world champion. I wanted to take represent my country [108:31] Uh on 32s professionally. I wanted the last 10 minutes and 32s. I wanted to get master sports. I wanted to go didn't in the marathon. I wanted to go [108:37] um [108:38] Represent my country professionally. I wanted to get master sports. I wanted to do a world record and I've done all that. I was like [108:44] You know, I just know that's I wanted you know, this is the answer. I want to do it [108:48] That's why I'm not training it is much anymore [108:50] Because I can say I can honestly say that I've done everything and I'm really really proud of what I do [108:55] And no one want to help other people achieve that because I know what it's like [108:59] So that's what I'm out now and that's why I'm like the next thing I want to do [109:02] It was is it's good to do the stone stuff because it's like [109:05] No, I want to say I left it in Bristol and I want to lift like maybe the diny stones and I'm gonna lift this and that [109:11] And it's an order box teach you know something that's you've said because I mean [109:14] We're saying before I already got into sport of any kind in in 2012. You know, so I mean [109:20] Yeah, I've done a lot [109:22] Since then, you know, I just want to keep doing things until I can't anymore [109:26] So like first of all, we're doing it only you want to run a marathon [109:29] Then I was like the whole cat about sporting and now it's I want to you know, I'm the totally different fucking thing all together [109:35] Now we're going to do some really strong, you know, strong work, but I don't expect strength and endurance [109:40] It's just to see if I can you know, just to see if they can do it and [109:44] Point out I want to look back in 20 years to say, look Jesus man [109:47] You know some great stuff, you know, you know some really cool stuff [109:50] You know and you should be proud of yourself and then [109:53] That's that's what I'm at now, you know, and I wanted to help I want to help all the people [109:57] Achieve their goals and get a sport because [110:00] Like you said the feeling of this fucking reason when somebody actually you've coached them, you know [110:04] You've you've took them through the good times in the bad times and then if they've achieved something and they feel great [110:09] And you get you get that you get that like a reflected fucking feeling like you feel a cheese and I'm so proud of them or certain [110:14] I'm telling you that I could help them. It's a great feeling. You know, I really is and [110:19] But what I kind of person I am is like this is what I'm at the one what I'm enjoying training is is this [110:26] At the moment, so that's what I'm going to stick with and I'm looking forward to the next chapter. Yeah, I really am [110:31] Yeah, yeah, it's I think too [110:34] It's funny that you say like there's you since you've achieved everything that you've wanted to in sport [110:40] I'm also really curious um if ever you decided you just wanted to to dial in and do another competition [110:46] Like it would probably only take you like eight weeks of just technique work and like just you know [110:51] Just just just honing the just honing the sword specifically to to kettlebell sport and then because there's no pressure [110:57] I bet you could go in and just fucking crush because you have no [111:01] Like one of the things that is so counterproductive to kettlebell sport performance is nerves and and like being so tied up in the result and being [111:10] And you're so good at just like [111:12] You know, relaxing and and being I do my David Keohan impression in practice a lot of times actually by the way [111:18] So my my my athletes are it's just time for a little balletic dance with the kettlebells [111:23] We're just we're just gonna go or I'll lead to be too long cycle here. I just want you to you know go to least mode here [111:28] Not beast mode. We're going least mode out. Okay, you know, it's just time for that [111:36] Oh, it's fucking terrible. I know it's fucking terrible, but they [111:40] Oh [111:42] We're just going least mode. It's a it's a balletic down to the kettle least mode you least mode. Yeah [111:49] It's time for a balletic dance with the kettlebells [111:52] Just relax [111:54] David relax. Look at that on the t-shirt [111:57] David says relax. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Look at least mode [112:03] If I bet I bet you anything man if you just if you just decided like yeah fucking [112:07] I'm gonna I'm gonna go compete in a month or two months that you could you could dial it in and you would probably go [112:13] You could probably go get master sport again like [112:16] That because because you're doing because you're doing other things that have kept your strength up your mobility is already there [112:21] You know what it feels like it's a and if you gave yourself a month or two just to get that specific honed in [112:28] skill I don't think I honestly I don't think it would be a problem for you. I think I think you could do it [112:33] I don't know master sports master sports it is is so specific and it takes so much time and it takes [112:41] so much consistent effort but I could definitely go and lift I think definitely could go and lift at a [112:48] high level on amateur definitely um [112:51] She's a member like I don't know if we touch on this last member we're going to Australia with with no training [112:56] At all kettlebells because at that time I was doing like that [112:59] Gymnastic rings if more if you remember any trainers [113:01] Lord gymnastics rings it was doing like muscle-ups and fucking well that kind of stuff and really [113:06] Are that crazy best your shit? [113:08] All that crazy stuff and I do do little to no kettlebells for training and then I was going to Australia to do a workshop and it's like oh shit [113:15] And no, no, I'm going to do the the GS double-lane actions [113:18] Fuck okay, so at least I can do with 24s on that [113:21] Oh fuck I better say something with some trainers. I mean for four weeks to try and get up to speed [113:27] On 24s. I went over like jet lag does absolute fall constantly [113:32] 80 plus reps long second 24s with fuck all training nothing really you know [113:37] um [113:38] No kettlebells for at least for at least for at the months so like I kind of I kind of definitely think with a bit of [113:44] With a bit of discipline maybe like a 10 to 12 week trainer cycle [113:47] I think 100 reps will be definitely on the cards, you know with 24s because [113:53] I've gotten a Jesus. I mean, oh, oh, maybe just more [113:57] Yeah, but you I think you I think you underestimate how much general strength you have right now from all of that stone lifting like [114:04] I mean I'm [114:05] I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna challenge you like just just for funsies [114:10] The next time you're feeling right go go grab the 32s and do a long cycle set [114:14] Just and go max time and just see how long can you make it under the 32s at the at a pace that's comfortable for you [114:21] And I I bet you're you'll probably hit 10 minutes. I bet you [114:25] I tell you what what I don't today. I mean, and I haven't done it for a while [114:29] I went down and picked up the 28s and and for a long cycle set and [114:35] The difference of fucking long cycle to 28 so I'm never weighing nearly 93 kilos. Yeah [114:41] The difference is thinking to 20s and 93 kilos and lived in them past like 83 kilos [114:47] It's a big difference [114:49] You know what I mean weight chips weight and I'm like [114:51] That felt fucking easy and I'm seeing the game like 10 rpm sets and the going to get it to carry what we kind of get me at the moon [114:58] Yeah, but strengthwise you know things are just flowing at the moment. The lever is the lever is the way it matters man [115:04] That's exactly is it's huge and you can see where the likes of it the heavy weight guys [115:08] Put up those big numbers because I mean [115:11] Like it's a weight fucking most weight big time [115:13] I was like 228. I mean, I was thinking up. I was doing what I'm like I'm now. I'm doing warm-ups [115:18] Because I'm because I'm doing heavy stones. I'm warm-up with 28s [115:21] And you know, I'm not warm-up like before but 16s. I'm warm-up like with 28 for swings [115:26] And then I've been up to 42s and then I start lifting the rocks and I've been my way up. I'm like [115:31] When I get the surgery, I'm warm-up with 28. It's like [115:34] Okay, I think I'm getting a bit stronger now, you know, yeah as opposed to what I was [115:38] So so David so David David's gonna David's gonna go throw around the 32s for a time set and see how long you can make it just for funzies [115:46] I think my card. I think I'm on say on say Patrick's Day. There you go. I'll give you a I'll give you a day to rest and recover [115:53] That fucking same buddy man. I tell you what first thing [115:56] You'll earn your earn your whiskey earn your Guinness go give yourself a 10-minute set on the 32s and see how you do [116:03] Post it up tag me [116:07] Tag you you fucking break you fucking bastard. I [116:11] Yeah [116:14] This is why my athletes love hate me because I throw a challenge just [116:20] That sounds like a plan. It's not like something to move out. I don't have 22s and I have no access [116:24] But I see maybe I'll go with the 28s. Yeah, do the 28 fine. Do the 28s fine fine. Am I not merciful? You can do the 20s [116:33] And if my long father and I get out of that because you're a fucking fool. All right [116:41] So what's your next polar jar? If you don't want me to ask what's your next school? [116:46] Somebody asked me that actually just the other day and so since I didn't finish that the sense I didn't finish the 10-minute triathlon [116:53] My my next goal is to actually finish all 10 minutes and all three lifts on the 20s on the 20s first [117:01] And hit and I want I want to hit rank one on triathlete which I'm right there like I can I hit [117:07] I can hit I hit ranked two on by Athalon and that like if I did just finish the 10 minutes on the long cycle [117:13] I probably would have hit rank one on triathlon [117:15] So and then from there I want to move up to 24s and I want to be able to do I want to do a full 10-minute triathlon on 24s [117:23] And then from and then from there that's that that would be a good achievement. Yeah, that would be a good achievement [117:28] From from there then then maybe I'll transition to like I want to do CMS in long cycle or I want to do CMS in by Athalon [117:36] And stop trying to do triathlon and then once I can achieve CMS then try and do try [117:42] It's and then eventually if if I can get there [117:45] I would love to do I would love to do 32s and and do I would love to get to master a sport in anything [117:52] But my ultimate goal honestly is I would love to be able I would love to be a guy that could do a a master a sport triathlon with 32s [118:01] Which would be that'll be that'll be something serious. Yeah, that'll be that'll be that'll be pretty fucking serious achievement [118:08] I'm not sure I'll ever be able to get there [118:10] But you know, it's one of those I remember seeing the only guy I've ever seen pretty lofty go [118:15] Which is why I wanted to go but I mean your goal is have to be high enough that they kind of scare you [118:20] Yeah, and that that one definitely puckers my butt hole a little bit [118:27] Makes me a little scary to save that out loud [118:30] But I mean, I remember I was we were doing the no-border's kettlebells comp [118:33] But you should get in on because we're doing that again this year, which is like at the time [118:37] I was just and you have a three-minute safe and you got to do three minutes as fast as possible on whatever lift of the week it was [118:45] Yeah, I don't know what you need to hear about it that's fucking great crack [118:48] So I mean like when when when we might be a jerk [118:51] When we will be long cycle when we will be maybe front scotch when we will be [118:55] Backstop [118:57] You and Kim Fox on team was team the Sagittarius or whatever the fight was on me me and Andrea love one me and Andrea were [119:04] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah [119:06] Yeah, she's too [119:08] Dude, she's she's so she's so good. She's so good [119:12] And I was just I was just on a happy hour with her for for one of the team Canada guys birthday a couple days ago [119:18] Yeah, it was it was funny. We were given Maddie a hard time because he kept comparing himself to Andrea [119:23] And we're like dude stop comparing yourself to Andrea. She's a freak [119:27] She's so good. She's a fucking animal [119:31] She's for her body weight [119:33] You know, and she was just hitting she was getting all constantly get best resolved all the time [119:38] Yeah, and that day it was like I was just feeling so a masquerade. It was like [119:41] You're just too fucking good. Yeah, she's absolutely she's less than half my body weight [119:46] And she can beat me on the 24 kilos for long cycle. That's incredible. Like it's it's a crazy like she's [119:53] I mean, it's just again. I'm gonna have on the podcast here soon [119:56] You have to man. You got to get around [119:59] Before to hear that. But I mean, yeah, that was that was great for that kind of kept training for a while [120:04] But um, the only guy I've seen doing like you go back to Triathlon. I really see you doing a [120:09] A 32 kilo triathlon was at the very end the last thing I get to do was a triathlon at any weight [120:14] And three minutes of each I was you know, and um [120:17] I think I told her 20s 20s and 20s and 28s is like no, I'm not gonna do on 28s [120:21] And I don't know the 20s and [120:25] I saw Paulus george was a george at us from from Greece [120:29] Paulus don't don't worry to use [120:31] Just like so easy just look just look so easy. You know, it was like fucking it was fantastic. Three minutes. I make I make nothing [120:38] I make nothing look easy. Everything is a battle. I make it look as hard as it feels [120:44] But you know, I can I can battle for what I'm at the least more than I [120:49] You want to relax and make ballet? [120:51] Dude, I can't I'm too fucked up from playing football for so many years to have least mode. I have no least mode [120:58] Everything is fucking [121:00] Paulus it would be [121:02] I mean, I'm in least mode right now sitting in my chair having a whiskey and talking on talking on the zoom calls [121:08] That's that's my least mode, brother [121:10] You're gonna spin? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly [121:15] I'm a little tiring [121:19] But I'm no, it's it's it's great to have a goal at that that kind of stuff for you know, that's kind of stuff you need [121:25] You know, so I mean that's in part [121:27] Yeah, it's so it's either that or I'm gonna age into master sport [121:31] That's the other thing I said is like I'm gonna be that I'm gonna be that like 75 year old guy that can still fucking throw around 24 kilo bells [121:38] Like like a madman like I'm just gonna be that that old fucker that just like never stopped lifting and just like [121:44] Like yeah, I could do I could do 65 reps on long cycle when I was 35 and I can do 65 reps when I'm 75 fuck you [121:54] You see these guys doing these these these senior guys, you know, I even the farty closest guys like I've had world championships. I think [122:02] So fucking I was actually going there like in his 50s and even like 204 Jericho with the 24s. Yeah, I was like, would you ever fuck up? [122:11] You know, I mean, no, no, fuck man. We're gonna compete masters. I mean give these Russian mad masters are we living for 30 years [122:18] It's in the beginning of this guy like [122:20] You know, even different 32s for like 20 years of his life 70s and 24s. Yeah, he's like the moon. You know [122:26] I'm profferating a conspiracy theory that the Russians are actually [122:40] factoring kettlebell lifting cyborgs [122:43] Dennis Dennis Vasiliv was actually the first prototype [122:49] He's ridiculous actually he was on them. Yeah, I am yeah, oh yeah, I'm on there [122:59] They're never at times when I can do them and they don't record the sessions [123:03] Which they really should record them in my post them on a YouTube channel because I would I would totally go do them later when I could [123:09] But they're like almost always when I'm working or doing something like you know, I've just never I know it's generally on a win [123:16] Even for us, but I mean, that's like 12 o'clock in the day if you place it right there. Yeah, yeah, it's usually in the middle [123:20] It's in the middle of my work day, and I'm like in a client-facing meeting like not something I can just skip out on [123:30] David Dennis did Dennis crush did Dennis crush everyone and just be like, oh, this is easy [123:35] No, no Dennis. Don't tell you don't a decent session and it was [123:40] I think it was three or four minutes of jerk and two or three times [123:44] And then we don't snatch so we don't it's just a jerk snatched it and then it on gpp [123:48] And but I didn't stick around with the gpp because I literally lifted rocks for an hour before I came on to the set [123:53] So like I thought we did your gpp and I lifted stones for an hour before this. So I didn't do the gpp. We were in what I'm [124:00] All these sections are great for me and and you've had some great people on that. I mean [124:05] And even was on it and Dennis was on it [124:10] And Steve and I just did one last just did one last week. I was doing one last week. I was doing one on Wednesday [124:16] Yeah, and we came was on it [124:18] So I mean if you have literally the best people in the world like you know training [124:25] And it's a great phone and the guy's the guy's meeting a great crack and there's usually a bit of bad for going on [124:29] You know, so it's it's good fun. It's it's good fun and you get people more over the world shining in [124:34] So it's it's a noise kind of relaxed. It's not [124:38] Taken too seriously, you know, the training sessions are pretty difficult [124:41] But I mean you're not taking the two series that you haven't a bit of phone just in between the minutes off [124:45] There's always a bit of phone going on. Yeah, anybody who's not on the tube get on to indicate that sports because it's it's a bit of crack [124:51] It really is nice. I love it, man [124:54] Well, I should let you go because I actually have to go train in like four hours and I've I've now had [125:00] Two Guinnesses and two whiskeys and this is probably not the best pre-training fuel, but [125:04] Of course it is. That's what I was trying to do [125:08] I don't know my best. I don't know my best. It's over after getting absolutely hammered [125:13] So you're on your own course for a PD today. I'm gonna do tag me in I will I will my my team will my team will laugh at me when I'm like oh [125:21] Guinness [125:22] David they're just gonna laugh at me. They're gonna be like yeah, that's what you get you fucking bastard [125:28] For being such a thing you do is just keep drinking out your keep drinking and then go live fast [125:32] Just hold stop. That is terrible advice. That is absolutely terrible advice [125:41] You know turn about spare play. I just told you to go do a 10-minute set on the double 28s for St. Patti's Day [125:46] So, you know, it's it's it's fair play so [125:50] All right, man, it's so good. It's so good. It's so good to hang out with you, man. We got to do this again [125:57] I love it and happy St. Patti's to you, Slantja. I know it's a [126:02] Slantja brother. We'll talk soon and I'm I'm [126:05] I'm definitely coming over to the motherland and we're gonna we're gonna do some some touring of Ireland and Scotland [126:12] Slant and [126:14] Some scotch and singing songs [126:17] We just got to hang out man and have a few points in the chat because I really enjoyed so good to see you man [126:21] And hopefully get to talk to you again soon, Jordan sounds good brother. We'll talk soon. See you buddy [126:25] Slantja [126:32] Thanks for listening to this episode of the platform podcast. I'm Jordan Kunde-Wright, right [126:37] If you have a question, please email me at Twin Cities Kettlebell Club at gmail.com [126:42] Follow us on Instagram and Facebook at Twin Cities Kettlebell Club on Twitter at TCKB Club [126:48] Online at Twin Cities Kettlebell Club.com and please help us grow our reach and give us a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever you get your podcasts [126:58] Until next time